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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Maybe. Maybe not.

    But I think some should focus on the more important issues, not petty crap like this.
    The problem is that OBAMA was the one that said that Lobbyists in government were an important issue when he made it a campaign issue AGAINST McCain.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    "Petty crap"... like outright lies?
    Name me a President that kept all of his campaign promises, and I'll sell you a bridge.

    Like Missypea wrote, we must look at the gray. These hires could turn out to be solid. So what is the big deal?

    Now if Obama decided to poo-poo the more major promises from his campaign, then yeah, there better be some 'splaining. Till then, give him his 100 days.

    You know, didn't Dubya promise in 2000 that he'd not start a war without exhausting diplomacy? LOL I'll have to find that video.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I like Obama so far. But it's been only 10 freaking days!
    This is petty, and I'm not going to get riled up by it.

    If I were you, I'd focus on results. Let's see how he does. But give him at least 100 days, m'kay?




    So first it was we couldn't critisize his decisions until jan 20th, now its "100 days", after "100 days" what will the next step in the left wing gag order on citisizing the Obama.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The problem is that OBAMA was the one that said that Lobbyists in government were an important issue when he made it a campaign issue AGAINST McCain.
    I highly doubt it was an important issue amongst the voters. I think people were most concerned about the economy, taxes and change, I would think.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I highly doubt it was an important issue amongst the voters. I think people were most concerned about the economy, taxes and change, I would think.


    Honesty is not an important issue among voters?
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So first it was we couldn't critisize his decisions until jan 20th, now its "100 days", after "100 days" what will the next step in the left wing gag order on citisizing the Obama.
    You can go nuts on him all you want. But don't expect most to think your're being reasonable by bitching about each and every little thing.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Name me a President that kept all of his campaign promises, and I'll sell you a bridge.

    Like Missypea wrote, we must look at the gray. These hires could turn out to be solid. So what is the big deal?

    Now if Obama decided to poo-poo the more major promises from his campaign, then yeah, there better be some 'splaining. Till then, give him his 100 days.

    You know, didn't Dubya promise in 2000 that he'd not start a war without exhausting diplomacy? LOL I'll have to find that video.

    Oopsie!
    You know, didn't Democrats complain that Dubya didn't keep his 2000 promise not to nation build?

    Wasn't it democrats on this forum that started up posts with the sole puprose to insult, degrade, and question the integrity of McCain based on NOTHING ELSE but him hiring Lobbyists onto his campaign team?

    So if its McCain's campaign having lobbyists, then they're absolutely bad and that absolutely mean McCain's bad...but if its Obama with lobbyists "lets wait and see, they could be good! Don't make judgement! Its a none issue even though OBAMA HIMSELF made lobbyists an issue"

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    You can go nuts on him all you want. But don't expect most to think your're being reasonable by bitching about each and every little thing.
    Now I'm hardly one that's been going "nuts" on him on every single little thing he does. There's been a number of things already I've said are rather none issues, but there are some I think are legitimate.

    That said...

    Doesn't it suck for the shoe to be on the other foot? Cause this **** was going on for 8 years now from the other side.

    Funny, I don't remember you making urges to your fellow democrats to stop.

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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    You can go nuts on him all you want. But don't expect most to think your're being reasonable by bitching about each and every little thing.



    This is "debatepolitics", I am discussing the POTUS. I am sorry you want to do the liberal "Lets attack the Good Reverend" for daring to discuss dear leader.


    Quite frankly the lefts tween swooning over Obama is sickening. This no critisizm stance is scary. Sort of like the same "cult of personality" that gave us a huge issue in the 1930-1940s....


    He is a person. He is not a god. Get over it and discuss him, And stop like the rest of you discussing me.


    I know I am great and all, but please, show some self control and stick to the subject, not the Good Reverend.
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    Re: Obama finds room for lobbyists

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Honesty is not an important issue among voters?
    It's really early.

    My initial assessment thinks he's being mostly honest, and trying hard to fulfill his promises.

    1) He's reaching across the aisle and asking all sides for input. Wow, isn't that a huge change!
    2) He's just not handing over the bailout money. It's coming with clauses. Amazing that he cared enough to actually call out the money grabbing banking pigs by shaming them on national TV. Go Barack!
    3) It's seems he's hiring quality people for the right positions. As far as I know, none are buddy appointments. Cool.

    There is more, but it's not necessary. So far, so good, IMO.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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