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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

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    It makes no sense to me how a person could work for years and receive compensation and then suddenly decide they aren't getting paid enough. Why not quit years ago?


    Yeah, that part is rather fishy....
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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

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    It makes no sense to me how a person could work for years and receive compensation and then suddenly decide they aren't getting paid enough. Why not quit years ago?
    How does one go about finding out what their male counterparts earn?
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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    How does one go about finding out what their male counterparts earn?
    Another good question.
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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

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    It makes no sense to me how a person could work for years and receive compensation and then suddenly decide they aren't getting paid enough. Why not quit years ago?
    From the article

    Ledbetter said she didn't become aware of the large discrepancy in her pay until she neared the end of her 19-year career at a Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. plant in Gadsden, Ala, and she filed a lawsuit

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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

    This is a good bill Obama signed. Put one in the positive column for the President.
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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

    There are good arguments on both sides of the issue.

    One the one hand, if someone has been discriminated against unfairly during their entire career but just finds out about it now, as Ledbetter did, it seems absurd to say that they can't get any compensation, while someone who was only discriminated against for 3 weeks can.

    On the other hand, this doesn't really do anything to decrease wage discrimination or help people discover when they're being harmed, as it only focuses on extending the statute of limitations for filing these suits. The parade of horrors that opponents presented was that huge numbers of people have colorable claims that they were discriminated against at SOME point in their working career. Under this new law, they can advance claims based on discrimination that happened 40 years ago, even if there hasn't been what most people would consider active discrimination since then. It defeats the purpose of having a statute of limitations.
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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    There are good arguments on both sides of the issue.

    One the one hand, if someone has been discriminated against unfairly during their entire career but just finds out about it now, as Ledbetter did, it seems absurd to say that they can't get any compensation, while someone who was only discriminated against for 3 weeks can.

    On the other hand, this doesn't really do anything to decrease wage discrimination or help people discover when they're being harmed, as it only focuses on extending the statute of limitations for filing these suits. The parade of horrors that opponents presented was that huge numbers of people have colorable claims that they were discriminated against at SOME point in their working career. Under this new law, they can advance claims based on discrimination that happened 40 years ago, even if there hasn't been what most people would consider active discrimination since then. It defeats the purpose of having a statute of limitations.
    I thought the bill extends your time to sue 180 days after each discriminatory paycheck. So if you like, Lily, worked at the same company for years and they continued to discriminate you you could sue as long as you were still collecting discriminatory paychecks and up to 180 days after your last one.

    But you wouldn't be able to sue a job you had two years ago if you hadn't collected a check from them in two years, right?

    Also, the way the news I read made it sound was you get a new 180 day extension after each discriminatory paycheck. So if the company you work for now was paying you less than they were paying men 5 years ago but they stopped doing that 2 years ago and the checks you've received in the past 180 days were non-discriminatory then you are too late to sue for the 5 year ago discrimination, right?

    The way I read up on this bill what you stated in bold doesn't seem true.

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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

    The law extends the 180-day deadline every time a discriminatory paycheck is issued.

    Obama signs equal-pay bill - USATODAY.com

    That seems fair without being over the top and opening up lawsuits where folks are going back 40 years and suing bosses they no longer even work under.

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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I thought the bill extends your time to sue 180 days after each discriminatory paycheck. So if you like, Lily, worked at the same company for years and they continued to discriminate you you could sue as long as you were still collecting discriminatory paychecks and up to 180 days after your last one.

    But you wouldn't be able to sue a job you had two years ago if you hadn't collected a check from them in two years, right?
    This is true, I was going off the assumption that the person was still at the same job.

    Also, the way the news I read made it sound was you get a new 180 day extension after each discriminatory paycheck. So if the company you work for now was paying you less than they were paying men 5 years ago but they stopped doing that 2 years ago and the checks you've received in the past 180 days were non-discriminatory then you are too late to sue for the 5 year ago discrimination, right?

    The way I read up on this bill what you stated in bold doesn't seem true.
    In theory, if the company could somehow prove that their prior discrimination completely ended 2 years ago and that it had absolutely no effect on your situation over the past two years, then yes, you wouldn't be able to sue.

    In practice, (and this is why plaintiff's attorneys are so pumped), you can always argue that even if the company gave you your deserved promotion 2 years ago, you should have been promoted 3 years ago, which would have meant you would have been at a slightly higher pay 2 years ago, which would have meant that every paycheck that you get even now is still "discriminatory." This is especially evident in companies where there are lockstep raises based on seniority.

    Say you work for a company where once you get promoted to a certain job, you get 3% raises each year. 20 years ago, you were unfairly passed over for a promotion to that job, but you were eventually given the promotion 5 years later. That means that for that entire 15 year period, even though the company "fixed" its earlier discrimination, you're still earning some combination of percentages below what you would have been earning in each paycheck if you had been promoted 20 years ago.
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    Re: Obama signs equal-pay bill

    From the article in the OP:
    He then signed the measure that effectively nullifies a 2007 Supreme Court decision...
    The President nullifies a Supreme Court decision? This is outrageous. What about checks and balances? What about respecting the law?

    Why aren't the resident lefties here bemoaning this unconstitutional overreach by the President?

    Oh, that's right, I forgot...this is Obama and a Dem Congress overturning the Supreme Court...my bad.

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