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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristina View Post
    So break out the violins why don't you? Being a war vet does not entitle you to special treatment. It does not entitle you to run up a debt and expect to stay connected with your electricity company. Pay the bill.
    No but being human should grant you the right to be warm during the winter months, no matter what age you are, or the reason why you cannot pay your bill.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristina View Post
    So break out the violins why don't you? Being a war vet does not entitle you to special treatment. It does not entitle you to run up a debt and expect to stay connected with your electricity company. Pay the bill.
    He should pay the bill, if he can. However, electric power is one of those necessities of life that should have restrictions on cut offs. A person had to go to his home to set up the limiter. Did anyone actually think to knock on his door when it was being installed? I mean if a company installs cable or any other service, they have to verify that I am actually there. Why shouldn't the same be for a "limiter" that would cut off electricity in the middle of the winter.

    This guy served in WWII and helped save us from facists in Europe and Asia. Certainly, this deserves a little extra sympathy, given that he is NINTY-THREE years old!
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    If he had money stapled to the bills you got to figure there was dementia involved. Probably the guy had the money all along and confusion kept him from paying his bill. Maybe when the power went out he decided not to mail the bills with stapled money on them. Old age really mucks up the mind for some.

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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    I don't always remember to do it but we can add a dollar to our energy bills every month for "helping hands" which helps your neighbors pay their bills if they can't. I can't even imagine going through a summer without air conditioning. Remember all those old people in Chicago died and then there was that summer that thousands of old people died in France.

    And there is some sort of law that you can get $150 help once every 5 years or something like that.

    I think of the mountains and mountains of trees that just got thrown into dumps after Katrina. There were literally millions of pine and oak trees that could have been used for firewood for heating by the Northerners for years. Not a single thing about Katrina made a lick of sense.

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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    I don't always remember to do it but we can add a dollar to our energy bills every month for "helping hands" which helps your neighbors pay their bills if they can't. I can't even imagine going through a summer without air conditioning. Remember all those old people in Chicago died and then there was that summer that thousands of old people died in France.

    And there is some sort of law that you can get $150 help once every 5 years or something like that.

    I think of the mountains and mountains of trees that just got thrown into dumps after Katrina. There were literally millions of pine and oak trees that could have been used for firewood for heating by the Northerners for years. Not a single thing about Katrina made a lick of sense.
    Shame. Perhaps he wanted it this way? Nobody knows.

    He could have put his house up as collateral for paying future bills.

    Out of this all sazerac, you have come up with the only free market solution... tacking an extra dollar onto the bill for use by those in need. The hope would be utility companies would actually set such "charity" aside.

    This scenario is tailored for another layer of government. Someone in the state legislature, or worse the federal government latches onto the story, writes a bill in the name of the deceased to personalize the cause... with the result being people not having to pay their utility bills. If it passes... watch chaos ensue.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamic View Post
    No but being human should grant you the right to be warm during the winter months, no matter what age you are, or the reason why you cannot pay your bill.
    I suppose if it were summer he should be able to get free electricity because he couldn't survive in the heat?

    Excuses, excuses. He would have been sent letters stating the companies intention to cut him off, the old man is not entirely blameless and could have called someone to help him. Pride killed him.

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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristina View Post
    I suppose if it were summer he should be able to get free electricity because he couldn't survive in the heat?

    Excuses, excuses. He would have been sent letters stating the companies intention to cut him off, the old man is not entirely blameless and could have called someone to help him. Pride killed him.
    Give me a break. Does Detroit get that hot? I live in a hotter place than ANYWHERE in the 50 US states and I RARELY use air con in the summer time. Detroit cold can kill. It should not be hot enough there in the summer to kill. If it is, step outside under a shady tree rather than stay in your stuffed up overheated house. Really stupid.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    If he had money stapled to the bills you got to figure there was dementia involved. Probably the guy had the money all along and confusion kept him from paying his bill. Maybe when the power went out he decided not to mail the bills with stapled money on them. Old age really mucks up the mind for some.
    There's a lot of assumptions in your post. We don't know how long the money was attached to the bill. Maybe he just got a pension check and cashed it. Maybe it was only a partial payment and the utility company wouldn't turn his power back on without full payment. There's dozens of reasons why the money could have been on the bill but not yet paid. We don't know the details yet.

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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    WBBM 780 - Chicago's #1 source for local news, traffic and weather - Cook County Money For Your Heating Bill

    Cook County Money For Your Heating Bill

    CHICAGO (WBBM) -- Cook County still has 40-million dollars left to distribute to folks unable to confront sky high heating bills from this unusually chill winter.

    Mayoral Chief of Staff Paul Volpe says 2/3rds of those federal dollars will be allocated to Chicago, the rest to The County.

    Volpe also says Chicago and the State of Illinois have increased from 750 up to 1000 dollars the size of grants for families to reconnect after being disconnected for non payment.

    And volpe says the city will also help 40 cash short homeless shelters pay their heating bills this winter.
    Oh. Federal dollars are available to the states to help out the poor in the winter. Hmm...

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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    There's a lot of assumptions in your post. We don't know how long the money was attached to the bill. Maybe he just got a pension check and cashed it. Maybe it was only a partial payment and the utility company wouldn't turn his power back on without full payment. There's dozens of reasons why the money could have been on the bill but not yet paid. We don't know the details yet.
    It's not overly presumptuous to assume dementia in a 93 year old. Most 93 year olds are ill equipped to completely care for themselves in isolation - without supervision by friends and family. If he died of hypothermia due to his heat being turned off while money sat in the house stapled to the bills he needed to pay dementia seems rather certain IMO.

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