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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Does it matter? It is winter, he is old, under no circumstances should the company shut off his power.
    How would they know that he is 93?
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How would they know that he is 93?
    Good point. In all reality, this guy is just a name on a list who could be some college kid that just flaked on the bill.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    How would they know that he is 93?
    Again, where I grew up in NH, it wouldn't matter. PSNH is NOT allowed to disconnect power for any reason during the winter months. And at that time, NH was a relatively conservative/libertarian state.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Well if it's a 21 year old mooching punk, I'd have a different attitude.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Well if it's a 21 year old mooching punk, I'd have a different attitude.
    If the utility is going to cut off power in the dead of winter, they have SOME responsibility to ensure that they are not cutting that power off to a vulnerable senior citizen before doing it.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I hope his family sues that utility company for all they are worth.
    I don't think he had family, but if he did, why should they sue? Knowing they had a 93 year old relative who couldn't pay his bills, maybe they should have taken care of him themselves instead of relying on the good graces of people who only knew him as an account number. Since the neighbors saw the shut off notice on his door, why didn't any of them offer a warm bed for the night? It's about compassion, people. And the electric company isn't only one lacking here. Except it's not their job.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    interesting commentary here

    Why would these deaths be considered murder? In many cases, these shutoffs have occurred during cold weather and during snowstorms. The utility companies have knowingly put people at risk because of late bills, even with laws in many states that prohibit shutoffs depending on the winter months and the current temperatures. When willful shutoffs cause the deaths of innocent people when they have a reasonable expectation that their actions may cause death, the companies have indeed committed murder just as unquestionably as if they held a gun to the individual's head.
    If Michigan is one of these states, the electric company is DEFINATELY in the wrong and guilty of at least manslaughter.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If the utility is going to cut off power in the dead of winter, they have SOME responsibility to ensure that they are not cutting that power off to a vulnerable senior citizen before doing it.
    They will have already sent notices and made phone calls.
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They will have already sent notices and made phone calls.
    And in those phone calls, they didn't ascertain that this man was 93 years old and apparently a WWII vet?
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    Re: 93-year-old froze to death, owed big utility bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And in those phone calls, they didn't ascertain that this man was 93 years old and apparently a WWII vet?
    Why would they ask that? They're not social workers. "Mr X, your power is scheduled to be disxonnected for non-payment on x/xx/09. Please contact our billing dept to make payment arrangements."
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