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    House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    That's right. You heard it correctly. The Federal government is about to put a 61 cent tax on each pack of cigarettes in order to pay for the SCHIP program. Taxes will also be levied on cigars, smokeless tobacco, and all other tobacco products. This means that, if you are a smoker, or if you chew, the government is going to take more money out of your pocket and give it to someone else.

    Now Bush had his problems (a whole crapload of them), but at least he vetoed this theft of money from taxpayers last year after Congress passed it. But there is a new moneygrubber in town, and his name is Obama.

    Article is here.

    An excellent editorial about what SCHIP means for smokers is here
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    The Senate is taking up the bill right now, and if you are against the Federal government redistributing YOUR money to others, now is the time to let your Senator know that a vote for this bill means one less vote for him when he comes up for reelection.
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    Why is this a bad thing?
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's right. You heard it correctly. The Federal government is about to put a 61 cent tax on each pack of cigarettes in order to pay for the SCHIP program. Taxes will also be levied on cigars, smokeless tobacco, and all other tobacco products. This means that, if you are a smoker, or if you chew, the government is going to take more money out of your pocket and give it to someone else.

    Now Bush had his problems (a whole crapload of them), but at least he vetoed this theft of money from taxpayers last year after Congress passed it. But there is a new moneygrubber in town, and his name is Obama.

    Article is here.

    An excellent editorial about what SCHIP means for smokers is here
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    The Senate is taking up the bill right now, and if you are against the Federal government redistributing YOUR money to others, now is the time to let your Senator know that a vote for this bill means one less vote for him when he comes up for reelection.
    Wow. As if smokers did not already have enough problems...
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's right. You heard it correctly. The Federal government is about to put a 61 cent tax on each pack of cigarettes in order to pay for the SCHIP program. Taxes will also be levied on cigars, smokeless tobacco, and all other tobacco products. This means that, if you are a smoker, or if you chew, the government is going to take more money out of your pocket and give it to someone else.

    Now Bush had his problems (a whole crapload of them), but at least he vetoed this theft of money from taxpayers last year after Congress passed it. But there is a new moneygrubber in town, and his name is Obama.

    Article is here.

    An excellent editorial about what SCHIP means for smokers is here
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    The Senate is taking up the bill right now, and if you are against the Federal government redistributing YOUR money to others, now is the time to let your Senator know that a vote for this bill means one less vote for him when he comes up for reelection.
    I have to disagree with you here. I am all for SCHIP. They need money to fund it and better to tax on an item like cigarettes to pay for it than print up more money they don't have to do it.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's right. You heard it correctly. The Federal government is about to put a 61 cent tax on each pack of cigarettes in order to pay for the SCHIP program. Taxes will also be levied on cigars, smokeless tobacco, and all other tobacco products. This means that, if you are a smoker, or if you chew, the government is going to take more money out of your pocket and give it to someone else.
    Since when is smoking or chewing tobacco a right/product/service the government can't tax?
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Why is this a bad thing?
    Because it takes money from one group of citizens and gives it to another. That is clearly a form of Socialism.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Why is this a bad thing?
    Taking other people's money and using for something they may not advocate. Why would that be a good thing?
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Why is this a bad thing?
    Because State sponsored theft is a bad thing. There are already more money in taxes on tobacco than there is actual price in the product itself. The Federal and State governments make more money off tobacco than the tobacco companies do themselves. And this goes to stuff not tobacco related. It's outrageous to continue stealing from people to fund larger government.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I have to disagree with you here. I am all for SCHIP. They need money to fund it and better to tax on an item like cigarettes to pay for it than print up more money they don't have to do it.
    No, if they want to fund it, they should levy the tax to everyone. Not target specific socially demonized groups to pay for other groups of people. If you're all for SCHIP, then you should be all for bucking up the money yourself to pay for it.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Since when is smoking or chewing tobacco a right/product/service the government can't tax?
    Never. No one claimed that the government could not tax them.
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