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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Ah, so because smoking is not something you partake in, it is okay? What if you were a smoker?
    I was. And while I was, I indirectly paid a crapload of taxes towards healthcare. As expensive as cigs are here, few--even hardcore smokers--seem to complain.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I pay a crapload of taxes for schools and I don't have kids. I don't complain, because it's in the benefit of society as a whole.
    Then you shouldn't mind paying more taxes for child health care. Why do you think it's appropriate to target a specific group of people and make them pay for it. Why don't you open your wallet instead of stealing from others.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I think everyone supports education. That is hardly comparable to the SCHIP.

    I don't have kids. Why should I have to pay for other people's kids getting educated?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't have kids. Why should I have to pay for other people's kids getting educated?
    For the sake of argument...

    You are bettering your society by educating children. These children grow up to contribute to society. They apply their education to their career path and the country grows.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Great, I am so happy now that 35 year old childeren will get the health care they so deserve.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't have kids. Why should I have to pay for other people's kids getting educated?
    I would actually agree with this. I think people should pay their own way and I shouldn't be forced to pay for someone's education whom isn't me. But at the very least, this form of tax is levied to everyone, not just a group. It would be even more egregious if taxes on tobacco were increased to pay for education.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Then you shouldn't mind paying more taxes for child health care. Why do you think it's appropriate to target a specific group of people and make them pay for it. Why don't you open your wallet instead of stealing from others.
    They have to raise money for the program, which I feel important. I'm cool with any way they can raise it.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    They have to raise money for the program, which I feel important. I'm cool with any way they can raise it.
    So you wouldn't mind if we took over Saudi Arabia to take their oil and use some of the funds from selling it to pay for this? Interesting.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I pay a crapload of taxes for schools and I don't have kids. I don't complain, because it's in the benefit of society as a whole.
    I shouldn't have to pay child support for someone else's kids. Just mine, and if I feel generous, then I can donate something to them. I should not be forced to do it.

    Hey, how about these bills?

    1) There is a huge drug problem on the streets. How about we tax the bejesus out of prescription drugs for sick people to pay for ridding the streets of drugs?

    2) Prostitution is rampant, so lets tax the hell out of people with children, say $100.00 a kid per year, to clean up prostitution.

    3) There is a lot of white collar crime, so let's put a tax on every stock trade to help clean it up.

    4) Each time there is a "wardrobe malfuction" on TV, and a boob is shown, everybody with a TV gets taxed for watching it, even if they didn't watch it.

    5) There is a huge problem with child molesters using the internet to entice children. Put a tax on every computer.

    6) There are a lot of potholes in the streets, so let's charge a tax on those who ride the bus to pay for them.

    7) There is a mess of an election in Minnesota, and it is still being hammered out in court. Lets reinstitute poll taxes in Mississippi to pay for the election contest in Minnesota.

    8) A guy in California just killed off his whole family, then killed himself. We need to tax hunting rifles now.

    9) I have to go take a leak, so let's tax YOUR toilet.

    10) Washington is full of idiots, so let's tax learning. Every time you enroll in a class, you pay a federal idiot tax.

    Pretty idiotic stuff, huh? Not any more idiotic than the SCHIP bill.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    For the sake of argument...

    You are bettering your society by educating children. These children grow up to contribute to society. They apply their education to their career path and the country grows.
    I agree with this (I was just playing devil's advocate).

    In this case, so the money comes from smokers. Bottom line, it will be a better society with healthier children.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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