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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    And Obama signs the bill.....Yippee!

    The Democratic-controlled House passed the bill 290-135 on Wednesday, with 40 Republicans backing it. . . .

    To cover the increase in spending, the bill would boost the federal excise tax on a pack of cigarettes by 62 cents, to $1.01 a pack.

    Obama signs kids' health insurance bill - Capitol Hill- msnbc.com
    40 Republicans--cool!

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's right. You heard it correctly. The Federal government is about to put a 61 cent tax on each pack of cigarettes in order to pay for the SCHIP program. Taxes will also be levied on cigars, smokeless tobacco, and all other tobacco products. This means that, if you are a smoker, or if you chew, the government is going to take more money out of your pocket and give it to someone else.

    Now Bush had his problems (a whole crapload of them), but at least he vetoed this theft of money from taxpayers last year after Congress passed it. But there is a new moneygrubber in town, and his name is Obama.

    Article is here.

    An excellent editorial about what SCHIP means for smokers is here
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    The Senate is taking up the bill right now, and if you are against the Federal government redistributing YOUR money to others, now is the time to let your Senator know that a vote for this bill means one less vote for him when he comes up for reelection.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Hey pundits were joking that we need 24,000,000 more smokers now to pay for this program.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    And Obama signs the bill.....Yippee!


    40 Republicans--cool!

    Seconded.

    SCHIP--good stuff for our kids


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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    Seconded.

    SCHIP--good stuff for our kids
    Really? How so?
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    And I'm sure that would go over as well as the prohibition did.
    I would have no problem with people choosing to smoke if they would respect the rights of the majority of people around them who didn't smoke. However, since smokers, being the scum of the earth that they are, refuse to acknowledge the rights of the rest of us and their own children to not be subjected to their poison, yes, go ahead and ban it. Short of that, I have no problem with taxing it heavily to help with heath care programs, like SCHIP.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Why? Because you disagree and do not understand smoking?
    I completely understand the lack of respect the majority of smokers have for the majority of the population who does NOT smoke.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I completely understand the lack of respect the majority of smokers have for the majority of the population who does NOT smoke.
    Lack of respect? Care to elaborate?
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's right. You heard it correctly. The Federal government is about to put a 61 cent tax on each pack of cigarettes in order to pay for the SCHIP program. Taxes will also be levied on cigars, smokeless tobacco, and all other tobacco products. This means that, if you are a smoker, or if you chew, the government is going to take more money out of your pocket and give it to someone else.

    Now Bush had his problems (a whole crapload of them), but at least he vetoed this theft of money from taxpayers last year after Congress passed it. But there is a new moneygrubber in town, and his name is Obama.

    Article is here.

    An excellent editorial about what SCHIP means for smokers is here
    .

    The Senate is taking up the bill right now, and if you are against the Federal government redistributing YOUR money to others, now is the time to let your Senator know that a vote for this bill means one less vote for him when he comes up for reelection.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Lack of respect? Care to elaborate?
    Like blowing smoke in the face of non-smokers. Sitting next to non-smokers AND THEIR CHILDREN in public places. Waving cigarettes in people's faces. Heck, I nearly got HIT in the face by a cigarette from a smoker who was smoking in a prohibited place.

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