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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I have to disagree with you here. I am all for SCHIP. They need money to fund it and better to tax on an item like cigarettes to pay for it than print up more money they don't have to do it.
    That's pretty much how I see it, too. Plus, hitting the pocketbook of smokers will likely reduce the amount of smokers, so it's all in the benefit of health.

    Here in Canada, smokes are almost $10.00 a pack. A lot of that is tax money that goes into our universal healthcare system.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Because State sponsored theft is a bad thing. There are already more money in taxes on tobacco than there is actual price in the product itself. The Federal and State governments make more money off tobacco than the tobacco companies do themselves. And this goes to stuff not tobacco related. It's outrageous to continue stealing from people to fund larger government.
    Obesity actually consumes more health care dollars now than smoking.

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Obesity actually consumes more health care dollars now than smoking.
    Yeah, well just you wait. There will be an obesity tax eventually. Government wants nothing more than to plunge its hands deeper into our pockets. Bunch of f'n pirates.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Taking other people's money and using for something they may not advocate. Why would that be a good thing?
    I pay a crapload of taxes for schools and I don't have kids. I don't complain, because it's in the benefit of society as a whole.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    That's pretty much how I see it, too. Plus, hitting the pocketbook of smokers will likely reduce the amount of smokers, so it's all in the benefit of health.
    Ah, so because smoking is not something you partake in, it is okay? What if you were a smoker?
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, if they want to fund it, they should levy the tax to everyone. Not target specific socially demonized groups to pay for other groups of people. If you're all for SCHIP, then you should be all for bucking up the money yourself to pay for it.
    You are right, as a non smoker, I wouldn't foot the bill. I wouldn't mind though another tax that would be equal to all.


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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I pay a crapload of taxes for schools and I don't have kids. I don't complain, because it's in the benefit of society as a whole.
    I think everyone supports education. That is hardly comparable to the SCHIP.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Never. No one claimed that the government could not tax them.
    So then you have no problem if the government does tax it?
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So then you have no problem if the government does tax it?
    If taxed appropriately, which it is not in this case.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So then you have no problem if the government does tax it?
    "Could not" and "should not" are two very different things.
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