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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

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    It's stunning to me that smokers would call nonsmokers irrational/illogical. Umm, I'm not the one with an addiction to a substance that is slowly killing me.
    Living is slowly killing you.

    Its illogical because you are forcing someone who you believe is making a poor decision to pay for someone else who is making poor decisions.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I just cannot fathom allowing some object (nicotine) to have that much of a control on me. I really can't. It bewilders me.
    You can see it as control I suppose.

    However, I also enjoy shooting(smoking). There is a range(store) close to my house (about 10 minute drive) but the people are assholes(government). So instead of patronizing that business(local stores that have the ridiculous taxes in place) I instead drive a bit longer to go to a range with more acceptable terms.

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    You can see it as control I suppose.

    However, I also enjoy shooting(smoking). There is a range(store) close to my house (about 10 minute drive) but the people are assholes(government). So instead of patronizing that business(local stores that have the ridiculous taxes in place) I instead drive a bit longer to go to a range with more acceptable terms.

    I could make many many more comparisons if you would like
    Nah. I still wouldn't get it.

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    That's right. You heard it correctly. The Federal government is about to put a 61 cent tax on each pack of cigarettes in order to pay for the SCHIP program. Taxes will also be levied on cigars, smokeless tobacco, and all other tobacco products. This means that, if you are a smoker, or if you chew, the government is going to take more money out of your pocket and give it to someone else.

    Now Bush had his problems (a whole crapload of them), but at least he vetoed this theft of money from taxpayers last year after Congress passed it. But there is a new moneygrubber in town, and his name is Obama.

    Article is here.

    An excellent editorial about what SCHIP means for smokers is here
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    The Senate is taking up the bill right now, and if you are against the Federal government redistributing YOUR money to others, now is the time to let your Senator know that a vote for this bill means one less vote for him when he comes up for reelection.
    Every drag off a cig or pinch of dip costs me money in hospital and insurance bills. My tax dollars go to cover their COPD, Emphizema, bronchitis heart disease... So go ahead and bitch about the tax on smokers and I'll bitch about paying for their health issues because of tobacco. Who's right?

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Every drag off a cig or pinch of dip costs me money in hospital and insurance bills. My tax dollars go to cover their COPD, Emphizema, bronchitis heart disease... So go ahead and bitch about the tax on smokers and I'll bitch about paying for their health issues because of tobacco. Who's right?
    How do your tax dollars go to them? I have to pay for my own health insurance. If I smoke my premiums are higher. That is, I pay for the increased risk myself.
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    How do your tax dollars go to them? I have to pay for my own health insurance. If I smoke my premiums are higher. That is, I pay for the increased risk myself.
    I wish all health insurance was like that. Mine is not, and I work with a woman who is at least 400 pounds and got her insurance company (the same as mine) to buy her some machine that cost $10,000 because of an infection in her leg that is worsened by her obesity. It pisses me off.

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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I wish all health insurance was like that. Mine is not, and I work with a woman who is at least 400 pounds and got her insurance company (the same as mine) to buy her some machine that cost $10,000 because of an infection in her leg that is worsened by her obesity. It pisses me off.
    Yea, my dad's is like that. He worked in a company with a few hundred people and whenever a large claim was paid everyone elses premiums went up the next year. Premature babies are expensive!
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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    SCHIP is a gateway bill to Nationalized Health care.
    I also believe that which is another reason I'm for SCHIP. I think it will help guide us to that next step.


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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I wish all health insurance was like that. Mine is not, and I work with a woman who is at least 400 pounds and got her insurance company (the same as mine) to buy her some machine that cost $10,000 because of an infection in her leg that is worsened by her obesity. It pisses me off.

    I read this:

    I'm pissed because some fat lady (who doesn't deserve health care because she's so fat) is getting health care.

    WUT??



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    Re: House Passes 2009 SCHIP Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    I read this:

    I'm pissed because some fat lady (who doesn't deserve health care because she's so fat) is getting health care.

    WUT??

    Yea, discrimination laws suck.
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