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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Then it is obvious you don't know too many Limbaugh listeners then because you've even admitted BY YOURSELF plenty of people take him seriously.
    And plenty do. Your point?

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    Or is it you are claiming only those on the left take him serisouly.

    No as was indicated in my last reply, perhaps go back and read it more carefully and see if you catch on to the English.
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    Because then you would be full of **** because those on the left aren't contributing to his funds.
    If that made any sense I guess I’d be all butt hurt. If it made any sense.
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    So then most of you on the right take him seriously enough to contribute money to. That says a lot.

    I have no idea what you are going on about, do you? I personally do not “contribute” money to any talk show host. So what?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I take a look at my paycheck each month, and none of it is contributed to Rush or any other left wing pundit. How does that fair for you on the right who support him with money.
    Who on the right who gives rush money are you talking to and more importatnty what the hell does these unseen monetary supporters of Limbaugh have to do with what we were talking about? Before you ran off the rails?
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    I'd say those on the right are the most fooled. While those on the left may hate him, the idiots on the right actually send the fool money
    I’d say at this point it is pretty obvious why you are not being taken seriously. By the way Limbaugh’s multi million dollar contract is paid from proceeds from advertising revenues and such. You really should educate yourself a bit more about such basic public knowledge least you look foolish.

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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Loin View Post
    BTW Shewter, I have not seen you since you quietly slithered away from another thread. You know the one where you vehemently argued with me again and again about comments I never made? Yeah the thread where you and RighOfCenter both kept yammering about another posters comments as being mine, despite the fact that I kept telling you they were not mine? Yeah that one, the one where once it became obvious neither of you knew what the hell you were blabbering about, you both just did the Batgirl and vanished without even acknowledging your mistakes and all the idiotic things said mistakes led you to claim?

    Of course it did not worry me as I knew that kind of brave owning up to your errors naturally signaled that you would soon start trolling me and throwing your most sincere “thanks” the way of anyone I argue with. Chuckle. I can hear you as you “thank” away, go get him Tucker, that guy Sir Loin made me make an ass of myself and I ran away like a little girl. Ewwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sounds like the ones that are going into a tizzy are conservatives over the The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee expressing it's rights of free speech against Rush.

    The Rushbots don't like free speech when it goes against their mesiah Rush.
    It would be OK if your side did not take these things 100% out of context.

    You would think if Limbaugh's show was so chalk full of exaggeration and falsehoods, your side would be able to come up with something more than using two moments out of thousands of hours and words totally out of context.

    You tried it with the Phony Soldiers remark, and now this.

    Conservatives watch this and laugh because we know your side will get your asses handed to you. It also paints your side as a bunch of liars willing to twist and distort statements that are available for public referencing.

    It only arouses the passions of those that are blind, or willfully remain ignorant.

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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Personally, I think the GOP ought to study the issue while it's in the light.

    I mean, personally, I traditionally like the GOP. Over the better part of the last decade, I have gotten sideways with it. I like being conservative, in a Goldwater "live-and let-live" kinda way. Since the O'Reilly's and Limbaugh's started representing and making policy for the GOP, (and brought in all these rude, disrespectful, nasty people with them,) The party has nosedived and you can't hardly buy a seat in politics anymore if there is an "R" beside your name.
    The party has dived because the R's have abandoned their roots. It's why there was no excitement over McCain; a RINO. Palin saved McCain, but wasn't enough to drive him over the finish line. Palin is the one who generated excitement, and the way the media went after her and her family illustrated they believed her to be a clear and present danger to Obama and the socialists in general.

    When the R's repopulate the party with conservatives, then you'll see victories. Until then it's a fight to keep the Marxist agenda from becoming reality.

    A good start would be denying Obama one vote on the Get Well Soon basket of bon-bons they're attempting to pass.

    On that vein, Obama came out a little shaken after meeting with the R's on the Hill. He did not sound very confident he would be getting political cover for the Scamulous package.
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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I can easily see that being the case. As I'm not a regular listener, I cannot say for sure either way. I can only explain that it comes across a certain way to me, but I'll take your word for it that I'm missing something, because I admittedly am not a regular listener.
    And that is exactly why your position is fair, your truly looking at the whole picture.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Some do...

    After saying that it's easy for Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks, Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) apologized Wednesday to “my fellow conservatives” for comments critical of talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh
    I found this story humorous and sad at the same time.
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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Loin View Post
    Looks like a white flag to me. Something about an offer to take it to a True Debate does cause that to happen..................
    My post was out of line, thus the removal of the picture. I apologize to you for that, Sir Loin. I was wrong to do that.


    In general, though, I don't think we have anything to "true debate" here.

    I made an opinion statement that I clearly qualified as an opinion statement. You said it was factually incorrect, without actually citing any facts.

    I've repeatedly asked for you to cite the source you claim exists, you repeatedly failed to do so.

    So what are we going to true debate about?

    The need to cite sources when making calims of factual innacuracy?

    I'll gladly true debate that topic with you.

    I say that when someone makes a claim of another poster being factually incorrect, they MUST include a source.

    You clearly believe otherwise, given the fact that you have yet to produce a source.

    If you'd like to true debate the need to support claims of factual innacuracy, let's do it.

    But if you want to true debate about our opinions on the matter, unbacked by sources, what's the point?

    I think Rush listeners are disenfranchised. I think this is evidenced by the fact that small-government conservatives do not have decent representation in the government, and have not had decent representation in the governement in my adult life.

    And right now there is even less small-government conservative representation than there was in the past. There is no "Goldwater" in the party right now.

    I don't feel that the neo-cons represent the Rush audience, ergo, Just because the GOP was in power, doesn't mean that conservativism was decently represented in the government. This is the rationale that was behind my "disenfranchised" comment.

    It was not an insult to Rush listeners, even though it seems that you may have taken it as such by comparing it to calling them "Stupid" or "uneducated".

    The term "disenfranchised" is totally unrelated to a lack of intelligence.

    Actually, if anything, there may be a inverse relationship. The more intelligent a person is, the more likely they are to be disenfranchised by our govenremnt because it is more likely that they see and understand how it doesn't really work for our best interests at all times.

    I would self-apply the label of "disenfranchised" because I feel there is next to no representation of my ideologies in the government (which is anti-federalist). The GOP is closer to my ideology than the Dems in general, but that doesn't mean that they adequately represent my ideals.


    As has been noted by many Rush fans, he is not a GOP apologist. He is conservative first and foremost. When the GOP is not representing conservative ideology, he slams them. And he'll slam them hard (Just look at what he has said about McCain).

    He gives an influential voice to those who feel that they are not being represented by their government, regardless of the party that is not representing them.

    If anything, this is a positive trait that Rush has, as I've said already in this thread.

    Giving voice to those who want their voices heard is not a bad thing.

    That is primarily what political talk show hosts do. They give voice to the complaints/grievances/issues their consumers have.

    Rush does this very well, and that's why his ratings are huge.

    The fact that his ratings are huge, means that there is a large portion of the population who feel as he does: that certain members of the government do certain things that they feel are not in their best interests.

    My comment about his listeners being "disenfranchised" wasn't something to be taken as a negative regarding Rush listeners, or even Rush himself. It was a negative about our representatives in government and how they fail to adequately represent the people.

    I'm sorry if you took it as a stereotype assault on the intelligence of his audience. It was not. I'm not in the crowd that you associated me with.

    I have never, and will never, make negative statemnts about Rush Listeners because the fact is that they are some of the most politically informed people out there.

    I may not always agree with them on certain issues (typically, those would be social issues, but only at a local level, at the federal level I am against the application of uniformly applying social programs. I'm anti-roe v. wade but pro-choice, for example) but I can agree with many of the principles that they hold (a small federal government).

    And in my initial comment, I did not try to impugn Rush for wanting Obama to fail. It had already been pointed out what he meant by this regarding Obama's policies, so I made the comment with teh understanding that this was already known.

    I don't think wanting Obama to fail is unpatriotic, nor is it something that I find all that negative. I never ellaborated on what that statement meant. It is a fact that he has said he wants Obama to fail. It had been described already what was meant by this. I made the comment with the belief that there was an understanding already extant on what Rush meant by this.

    I never said that Rush wanting Obama to fail = Rush wanting America to fail.

    Other people have made that claim, but I am not one of them. If you'd like to debate those people on that, then target them, not me. Again, in this case you made a claim that it is normal to argue that Rush ignores context while ignoring the contest Rush used (paraphrased). By quoting me, and then making such a comment, it is clear that you meant to say that I was the one doing so.

    Teh desire for the policies to fail is two-fold.

    1. He doesn't want the legislation to pass inthe first place because he thinks it is bad legislation
    2. If it does pass, he hopes it doesn't do what is intended, because that will lead us down the path to socialism.

    He basically has said that if such legislation passes, and then works as intended, then there is no "return". That it will be the end of America as we know it, so to say. (i.e. if it works as intended, it will mean failure for America, because the policies are bad)

    Whereas, if it passes and then fails to work as intended, recovery is possible. Conservativism would receive new adherents and gain enough support to bring us back to what he believes we should be. (i.e. if it doesn't work as intended, it will be a success for America because the policies are inherently bad).

    In essence, I think that he believes if there are short-term successes, it will lead to long term failure.

    But if there are short-term failures, it will lead to long-term success.

    This coincides with his views regarding recession. A recession must pass over time. Trying to expidite recovery to ease the short-term burden will only lead to long-term hardship. Thus, it is preferable to deal with the short-term failures that lead to long-term success.

    In other words, sometimes short-term hardship is warranted for the long-term benefits it will create.

    I think I actually understand his POV on the issue, and to a degree I can support the concept.

    Just because I didn't explain this while giving an opinion statement doesn't mean I was taking him out of context.

    And let's say that situation two I decribed above occurs, and Obama's plans fail to do what is intended (no short-term benefits). That is a positive for Rush. It will prove him correct on how the policies are failures, and it could create a resurgence of conservativism in the country.

    Think about it like this, had carter been successful, there would not have been a Reagan, because Carter would have probably won re-election.

    The best way for the conservatives to be represented again is for Obama to mimmick Carter in efficacy.
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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    And that is exactly why your position is fair, your truly looking at the whole picture.
    Thanks, LaMidRighter.
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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Tucker, you said that conservatives don't have a "Goldwater". Would you say that Ron Paul is the closest thing to one?
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    Re: Democrats Launch Petition Against Rush Limbaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Tucker, you said that conservatives don't have a "Goldwater". Would you say that Ron Paul is the closest thing to one?
    I voted for him in the primaries.
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