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I know that, but that doesn't really answer my question. My entire point is that his anti-semitism is rooted in his religion.And the main issue with the Lefevrists was their non-conformance with the reforms at Vatican II.
What the hell does "Iran doubts the Holocaust" even mean?I figured it was common knowledge Iran doubts the Holocaust?
While I don't doubt the Holocaust happened. I can see how many countries are not as informed on the topic and even hesitant to teach it. Its a staple of education in the US but not necessarily other countries, especially those who suffered significant casualties of their own during WWII.
It is taboo to speak bad of Israel in the west for one reason, the Holocaust. Iran attacks it because it is the main reason the UN allowed for the creation of a Jewish state and it is not a significant or even accepted historical even in the middle east. Why should they acknowledge something they had nothing to do with when it is the reason their greatest enemy was given a state in the ME.
Who will waste their lives making such kind of polls?
"Do you think that the Germans used poison gas or that they just farted on the Jews faces?"
"Did the people in the concentration camps died because they were hungry or because they were victims of serious symptoms of anorexia?"
You have no idea of how people of other countries feel about this fallacy of the holocaust, and you better visit their forums, because forums is a better witness which carry lot of information, while polls mostly is about of saying yes or no. Besides, in several occasions the questions of the polls are tricky to take advantage and have a better result for the intended partial goal.
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"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
First, that war happened in the past millennium, so that is "ancient history" already. Second, no one of the supporters of the holocaust have ever tried to verify their own claims with the support of science.
On the contrary, an expert in gas chambers design and construction has proved with an excellent use of the scientific method those rooms never were used as gas chambers, from the failures of ventilation, the leaks in windows and doors, plus the lack of residuals enough to assert that such gas was used to kill people.
The link I gave in my former message provides more information from people who live in Europe, they know their history, they have well documented census of Europe in those years of the war, they can prove that it can't be possible that 6 millions of Jews died in gas chambers just by using the records of those census.
You have science, official records from census, a million of German soldiers who were ready to testify that such holocaust was a lie and prove it, but they weren't allowed to say their version and show their evidence.
Maybe the Iranians argue that the holocaust never happened because the mutual hatred between them and the Jews, but there are lots of people who don't buy the fallacy of the gas chambers for the reasons given above plus that it doesn't make sense at all.
This is not about antisemitism, so please stop hiding yourself in that silly word.
If the NU approved the creation of the State of Israel in base of a lie as it is the gas chambers killing millions of Jews, then I think that we must need to reconsider such a resolution and see how this mistake can be fixed.It is taboo to speak bad of Israel in the west for one reason, the Holocaust. Iran attacks it because it is the main reason the UN allowed for the creation of a Jewish state and it is not a significant or even accepted historical even in the middle east. Why should they acknowledge something they had nothing to do with when it is the reason their greatest enemy was given a state in the ME.