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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    He was excommunicated for being involved in the unauthorised elevation of Bishops. The Lefevrist Movement is a traditionalist movement that grew out of opposition of some of the reforms of Vatican II.
    Yes but, again, wasn't that due to his being part of the Lefèvrists?

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And the stance on the Holocaust is absolutely IRRELEVANT to his position as a bishop.
    Really? Considering the role the CC took during WWII then no. It is not irrelevant.

    He was excommunicated due to other issues.
    And brought back to one again be a fully legit church official.

    This issue is manufactured by the media to put the Church in a bad light.
    Lol - Yes. The Catholic Church keeping a Holocaust denying Bishop would have been seen in a good light under ANY other circumstance.

    There are many things I disagree with my priest on - does that mean he (or I) should be excommunicated?
    You - Normal nobody cares about Christian. He - Church official. Do you get my point yet?

    Of course not. What idoicy!
    You mean ludahai's hypocrisy? Yes. Yes it is.
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yes but, again, wasn't that due to his being part of the Lefèvrists?
    And the main issue with the Lefevrists was their non-conformance with the reforms at Vatican II.
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? Considering the role the CC took during WWII then no. It is not irrelevant.
    You mean with the Church spoke out against the abuses of the Nazis and did all it could to save hundreds of thousands of Jews from Nazi oppression, including the opening of Castle Gandolfo for the purpose of sheltering Jews?

    And brought back to one again be a fully legit church official.
    Whose excommunication was due to factors having absolutely NOTHING to do with Holocaust denial.

    Lol - Yes. The Catholic Church keeping a Holocaust denying Bishop would have been seen in a good light under ANY other circumstance.
    And how his this grounds for excommunication?

    You - Normal nobody cares about Christian. He - Church official. Do you get my point yet?
    Still has nothing to do with excommunication.

    You mean ludahai's hypocrisy? Yes. Yes it is.
    Trying to invent things? I have been consistent all through this (and other) discussions.
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    You are asking me to give you my whereabouts online, and that is a no no.

    Just use any search tool and write the name of any country, add the word forum, or foro, and whoa!, you will have some links. After that, visit the one you please and look for the discussion.

    If you don't understand what they say, use the translator online. I will warn you that they not only disagree with such story of the holocaust but that they insult a lot to the Jews.
    Considering that anti semitism is again on the rise in Europe and else where can we be sure that they are not biased or just flat out racist in their views? You do say that they go beyond the holocaust and insult the Jews. That at least to me indicates a broader agenda than just denying the holocaust.

    A forum hardly represents the view of entire countries. Just look at the threads here. It is just a very very small hand full of us from different countries that that post in the same topic threads over and over.

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Here is an interesting fact. There is more historians that doubt the Holocaust than their are scientists that doubt evolution.

    Iranian government have people that deny the holocaust, the US government have people that deny evolution. What does that say about the US and Iranian goverments??
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by GarzaUK View Post
    Here is an interesting fact. There is more historians that doubt the Holocaust than their are scientists that doubt evolution.

    Iranian government have people that deny the holocaust, the US government have people that deny evolution. What does that say about the US and Iranian goverments??
    Do you have a source for that fact?
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Why is this news?
    I figured it was common knowledge Iran doubts the Holocaust?

    It would have been news if they admitted it was true.

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Why is this news?
    I figured it was common knowledge Iran doubts the Holocaust?

    It would have been news if they admitted it was true.
    It would have indeed, followed by an execution of the man who made such an admission.
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    It would have indeed, followed by an execution of the man who made such an admission.
    Iran's laws not ours.

    Im confused as to why everyone takes it so personal when someone doubts the Holocaust. [Don't bite my head off] but does it really matter what a few spokesmen say in the larger scale of things? The majority of the world acknowledge it.

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