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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Have any links to these forums where the forum-goers do not believe in the Holocaust?
    You are asking me to give you my whereabouts online, and that is a no no.

    Just use any search tool and write the name of any country, add the word forum, or foro, and whoa!, you will have some links. After that, visit the one you please and look for the discussion.

    If you don't understand what they say, use the translator online. I will warn you that they not only disagree with such story of the holocaust but that they insult a lot to the Jews.

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Not the same thing.
    Really? How so?

    I can't choose my brothers in Christ
    But the church sure as hell does have a say over who is a Bishop and who isn't.

    and they are free to have their opinions
    As Bishops? No they don't.

    - I simply do not agree with them -
    He's still a Bishop.

    and neither does the Church.
    And he is still a bishop.

    There are many things I have profound disagreements with my brothers and sisters in Christ about, but that doesn't change the fact that they are my brothers and sisters in Christ.
    Pssst. He's STILL a Bishop in your church.

    Apparently you have a difficulty in understanding such a distinction
    Apparently you missed the point I made by stating he's still a Bishop in your church.

    Now, back to the thread. There is another thread on this issue.
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    You are asking me to give you my whereabouts online, and that is a no no.

    Just use any search tool and write the name of any country, add the word forum, or foro, and whoa!, you will have some links. After that, visit the one you please and look for the discussion.

    If you don't understand what they say, use the translator online. I will warn you that they not only disagree with such story of the holocaust but that they insult a lot to the Jews.
    What?

    You're lame, and a liar.
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? How so?



    But the church sure as hell does have a say over who is a Bishop and who isn't.



    As Bishops? No they don't.



    He's still a Bishop.



    And he is still a bishop.



    Pssst. He's STILL a Bishop in your church.



    Apparently you missed the point I made by stating he's still a Bishop in your church.



    Christian apologist.
    And the stance on the Holocaust is absolutely IRRELEVANT to his position as a bishop. He was excommunicated due to other issues. This issue is manufactured by the media to put the Church in a bad light. There are many things I disagree with my priest on - does that mean he (or I) should be excommunicated? Of course not. What idoicy!
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    What?

    You're lame, and a liar.
    I gave you the steps to check other countries forums and find out that the majorities of people in those countries do not believe that the holocaust happened.

    You are on your own now.

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    I gave you the steps to check other countries forums and find out that the majorities of people in those countries do not believe that the holocaust happened.

    You are on your own now.
    And you think checking FORUMS is going to be an indication to what the majority think?

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    And the stance on the Holocaust is absolutely IRRELEVANT to his position as a bishop. He was excommunicated due to other issues. This issue is manufactured by the media to put the Church in a bad light. There are many things I disagree with my priest on - does that mean he (or I) should be excommunicated? Of course not. What idoicy!
    Wasn't he excommunicated for being a "Lefèvrist"? If so, then his holocaust denial stems from his anti-semitism, which is part of his religion. So it's not really irrelevant; in fact, it couldn't be more relevant.

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Wasn't he excommunicated for being a "Lefèvrist"? If so, then his holocaust denial stems from his anti-semitism, which is part of his religion. So it's not really irrelevant; in fact, it couldn't be more relevant.
    He was excommunicated for being involved in the unauthorised elevation of Bishops. The Lefevrist Movement is a traditionalist movement that grew out of opposition of some of the reforms of Vatican II.
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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And you think checking FORUMS is going to be an indication to what the majority think?

    Do you have another better method to find out what the people think about the different topics?

    I just used my own suggestion and I find out this page

    MUNDO HISTORIA - El holocausto nazi, si sucedio - Segunda Guerra Mundial historia social, politica, y economica.

    Here, the holocaust fan started the topic saying that the holocaust happened. And his introduction appeals that "only a minority" don't believe in the holocaust.

    At the third or fourth message one participant who doesn't think the same has been banned already. The thread is full of documents and pictures showing the atrocities made by the Nazis over the enemy in general, because we must understand that Jews weren't the only victims.

    The discussion continues and good arguments like the impediment to a million of German soldiers to testify that such holocaust didn't happen is mentioned, while only the Jews were heard in the court hearings. Who knows why...

    Several participants disagree with the hundreds of messages of the few supporters of the holocaust posting pictures and resolutions of the UN like crazy, because they want plain evidence and none is given. Most of the participants are from Spain, there are from Argentina, Venezuela, you name it...

    Use a translator to check what they say, and you will find out that the ones who disagree with such gas chambers are well educated people who present their arguments with great strategy to debunk the weak arguments of the holocaust supporters.

    And, some of the supporters that say yes, that the holocaust happened, they don't think that 6 million Jews were killed but only a lesser number of them, and they use a demographic calculation of the population of Europe in those years to find out that such killing of 6 million of Jews cannot happen at all, but only some hundreds of thousands.

    So, the only thing I wrote in the search tool was "foro holocausto", and web sites showed up, and you just must find and select the one you want. In this case I selected the first one which appeared in the list.

    Of course I have not participated in the forum given as a reference here, this site is also new for me.

    There are other forums where the discussions are not that well educated and you can observe how lots of participants not only reject the idea of such holocaust but they insult and laugh of the supporters of such idea.

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    Re: Holocaust a 'big lie': Iran govt spokesman

    Quote Originally Posted by conquer View Post
    Do you have another better method to find out what the people think about the different topics?

    Sure, carefully sampled, professionally done polls. Care to cite one?

    Next you will tell me we should cite Stormfront.org to determine what the majority of White Americans think about President Obama.
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