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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    The pathetic part here, that Obama thinks that signing some document will prevent the weaponization of space.

    IF, and God Forbid this happened, a war broke out between the USA and China, the first thing they'd do is go after our GPS, Com and Recon birds. Anyone here REALLY think China would say "Gee, we signed that treaty, we cannot do this?"

    Obama gets a fail here.

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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The pathetic part here, that Obama thinks that signing some document will prevent the weaponization of space.

    IF, and God Forbid this happened, a war broke out between the USA and China, the first thing they'd do is go after our GPS, Com and Recon birds.
    In fact, that is how we're likely to know that they -are- going to war with us.

    Obama gets a fail here.
    Yes, well, no one is really surprised.

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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The pathetic part here, that Obama thinks that signing some document will prevent the weaponization of space.

    IF, and God Forbid this happened, a war broke out between the USA and China, the first thing they'd do is go after our GPS, Com and Recon birds. Anyone here REALLY think China would say "Gee, we signed that treaty, we cannot do this?"

    Obama gets a fail here.
    The article specifically states that he also plans to look at threats to US spacecraft, offer contingency plans to keep information flowing, and a plan to defend US spacecraft. Basically he is saying there should be a ban on weapons in space but the US will still be putting measures in place to protect itself and it's spacecraft.

    I have no problem with this. In fact it is quite an intelligent move. This sets precedence that America will not be placing weapons in space and will not accept the placement of weapons in space by any foreign nation, and seeks other nations to follow. This removes the likelihood that the world will end up in the same situation that is currently is in with Nuclear weapons.
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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I have no problem with this. In fact it is quite an intelligent move. This sets precedence that America will not be placing weapons in space and will not accept the placement of weapons in space by any foreign nation, and seeks other nations to follow. This removes the likelihood that the world will end up in the same situation that is currently is in with Nuclear weapons.
    He who holds the high ground holds the advantage.
    Space is the ultimate high ground.

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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    He who holds the high ground holds the advantage.
    Space is the ultimate high ground.
    Peace should be obtained through acceptance and agreement, not through fear.

    If the powers of this world all agree to not utilize weapons in space and also to act against those that do this world will be a much better place then if everyone had a few thousand nukes attached to satellites pointing at each other.
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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Peace should be obtained through acceptance and agreement, not through fear.
    There is what you think 'should' be, and then there is what is.
    Given that there will never be universal acceptance and agreement, peace is then kept through deterrent.

    If the powers of this world all agree to not utilize weapons in space and also to act against those that do this world will be a much better place then if everyone had a few thousand nukes attached to satellites pointing at each other.
    Nukes in space?
    How unimaginative, pointless and needless. There's nothing a nuke in space can do that cannot be done with current nukes.

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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    I heard it's because the Satellite with focused energy capability was scheduled to be painted black and have a pistol grip added to the controls.
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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I heard it's because the Satellite with focused energy capability was scheduled to be painted black and have a pistol grip added to the controls.
    No flash hider?

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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There is what you think 'should' be, and then there is what is.
    Given that there will never be universal acceptance and agreement, peace is then kept through deterrent.
    Determent would obviously still exist since countries in the agreement would be allied to act against those that went against the agreement. There is no positive for anyone to have military presence in space.

    When you have one power above all others rebellion and conflict is inevitable. If we have multiple counties on equal ground then the only people to worry about are those that are against equality (terrorists, fascists, etc.).

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Nukes in space?
    How unimaginative, pointless and needless. There's nothing a nuke in space can do that cannot be done with current nukes.
    It was only an example. Insert any weapon that suits your taste.
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    Re: Challenges loom as Obama seeks space weapons ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No flash hider?
    Nah, they've got a heavy fluted bull barrel.

    However, there was talk about adding a bayonet lug. I guess Biden flipped out about that. Said something about "assault satellite"....
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    Now apologize for apologizing!

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