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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    No it wasn't, and no he doesn't. The US attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President and can be dismissed at any time. Clinton dismissed all 93 US attorneys, which was his right to do as President. You may disagree with it, but it's nothing more sinister than the President exercising the power granted to him.
    Please, please, please stop it with the Clinton attorneys! In Bush's first term, he dismissed most of Clinton's. That's not out of the ordinary, nor it is a relevant part of THIS discussion.

    THe 9 that were fired in the second term all claim they were let go because of political reasons. That is a whole different ball game.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You are correct that the president can dismiss attorneys. The issue is that Karl Rove was the one choosing who to dismiss and who to hire to replace them, with Bush rubber stamping his choices. The possibly "sinister" part is this: why would Karl Rove be deciding on the choices for US attorneys?
    Ah, the conspiracy theory angle.

    It really doesn't matter where the idea originated. If you think the President has the time to personally review and vet all the people in his administration, well, that's just plain silly. That's what he has advisors for.

    They served the executive branch, and the head of that branch decided he wanted to replace them. It really is that simple.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Ah, the conspiracy theory angle.

    It really doesn't matter where the idea originated. If you think the President has the time to personally review and vet all the people in his administration, well, that's just plain silly. That's what he has advisors for.

    They served the executive branch, and the head of that branch decided he wanted to replace them. It really is that simple.
    Since when did Karl Rove work in the Justice Department?

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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Please, please, please stop it with the Clinton attorneys! In Bush's first term, he dismissed most of Clinton's. That's not out of the ordinary, nor it is a relevant part of THIS discussion.

    THe 9 that were fired in the second term all claim they were let go because of political reasons. That is a whole different ball game.
    All of the attorneys you just mentioned were dismissed for political reasons. That's part and parcel of being a political appointee. It's quite amusing that you only care about the ones Bush fired, though.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Since when did Karl Rove work in the Justice Department?
    Who cares if he did or not? As far as I know, that's not a requirement to advise the President. If I'm wrong, then I eagerly await your links proving that I am.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Ah, the conspiracy theory angle.

    It really doesn't matter where the idea originated. If you think the President has the time to personally review and vet all the people in his administration, well, that's just plain silly. That's what he has advisors for.

    They served the executive branch, and the head of that branch decided he wanted to replace them. It really is that simple.
    A Democrat governor sat in jail for over seven months for being "convicted" of something that politicians do every day, yet nobody blinks. According to witnesses, he was framed. From what I understand, Rove's fingerprints are all over this one. He seriously needs to answer to this.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Ah, the conspiracy theory angle.
    Naw, just a hypothesis. Innocent until proven guilty. All we're asking for is a legitimate investigation to put the matter to rest. And we believe an investigation is in order because there is reason to suspect they were fired solely for political reasons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    All of the attorneys you just mentioned were dismissed for political reasons.
    And that's like, against the law, is it not?

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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    From what I understand, Rove's fingerprints are all over this one. He seriously needs to answer to this.
    That day is coming soon.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    A Democrat governor sat in jail for over seven months for being "convicted" of something that politicians do every day, yet nobody blinks. According to witnesses, he was framed. From what I understand, Rove's fingerprints are all over this one. He seriously needs to answer to this.
    Weren't you the one just having a conniption over the topic straying? What does this have to do with President Bush legally firing some US attorneys?
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Naw, just a hypothesis. Innocent until proven guilty. All we're asking for is a legitimate investigation to put the matter to rest. And we believe an investigation is in order because there is reason to suspect they were fired solely for political reasons.
    Don't you think there should be something to investigate before the investigation is started? It would suck if the cops started investigating you for child rape, wouldn't it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    And that's like, against the law, is it not?
    Like, no.
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