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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Wow, what a convincing argument! Thanks for showing me the light and proving that indeed, Rove is completely innocent! *applause!*
    Innocent of what? To what are you refering? On what evidence are you basing this? You do understand that the burden of proof does not fall upon the accused to prove their innocence?

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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Innocent of what? To what are you refering? On what evidence are you basing this? You do understand that the burden of proof does not fall upon the accused to prove their innocence?
    There are people that testified under oath that Rove was not only the mastermind behind the dismissals of lawyers that are claiming to have been fired for political reasons, but also the conviction of Don Seigleman. I--as well as many others--would like to get Rove take on things under oath.

    It seems, however, that Rove doesn't want to.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    In that case, you have just called a lifelong Republican prosecutor who also worked for Ronald Reagan, Bush's father, and Bush himself, a liar. Shame on you.
    You do realize that using this line thinking that it suddenly creates credibility of someone because they are a lifelong Republican and worked for Reagan this somehow makes her testimony gospel is pretty pathetic right? Shame on you.

    If you READ what is in her statement, you would see a LOT of hypothesizing and he said she said in it. There is nothing substantial to suggest anything worthy of charges being brought up. Perhaps that is why there aren't any charges and this is being tried in a committee hearing for public consumption; but please forgive me presuming you are a gullible lemming like many others on here who choose to believe the unbelievable and impugn someone's character without substantive proof.

    I will repeat clearly what this is; it is a political witch hunt much like the Tom DeLay case was and will turn up NOTHING that could be construed as evidence to bring Rove up on any charges.

    John Conyers is an intellectual midget that defines the mentality of the current Congress and it's leadership. He is a caricature of the whacked out mental state of many Democrats who now infest our Government and whom you apparently think have some level of credibility; it makes you look pretty lame if you ask me.

    Carry on; I look forward to more of your hysterics and rants about corruption in the Bush administration which to this day has NEVER been proved by any level of credible evidence.

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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    There are people that testified under oath that Rove was not only the mastermind behind the dismissals of lawyers that are claiming to have been fired for political reasons, but also the conviction of Don Seigleman. I--as well as many others--would like to get Rove take on things under oath.

    It seems, however, that Rove doesn't want to.
    I haven't seen any EVIDENCE of that which your lemming like acceptance of indicates. What I have seen is a lot of hearsay and with hunting in typical John Conyers committee fashion.

    Let me ask you a question and beg for some honesty here; if there is this concrete evidence of a crime having been committed, why have a committee hearing on it, why not just bring up charges and try the man? Do any of the people desperately wanting to hang Rove even ask themselves the OBVIOUS?

    It is OBVIOUS what is going on here just as it was obvious from watching John Conyers make a laughing stock of the hearing on Bushs war crimes. John is turning the Congress into a circus that no one can ever take serious again because it is so laughable and pathetic watching this stupidity play out in the public.

    John Conyers is a clown in the circus we now call Congress where the inmates are now running the asylum. No one with a brain can look at this and think; wow, this is how I want Government to work!

    Carry on.

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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    There are people that testified under oath that Rove was not only the mastermind behind the dismissals of lawyers that are claiming to have been fired for political reasons
    This is not illegal. The President retains plenary authority to appoint and dismiss US attorneys. Rove was acting at the direction of the President.

    but also the conviction of Don Seigleman.
    A person accused Karl Rove of masterminding the conviction of Don Siegleman. I'm not sure how this constitutes evidence.

    I--as well as many others--would like to get Rove take on things under oath.
    No doubt you would. Perhaps it will get some attention off of Obama's most recent lie.

    It seems, however, that Rove doesn't want to.
    Why should he? To placate some grand-standing asshole and a bunch of partisans?

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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    A person accused Karl Rove of masterminding the conviction of Don Siegleman. I'm not sure how this constitutes evidence.
    Personally, I'm impressed with how Rove managed to plant 12 of his minions on the jury and got them to convict Siegelman on absolutely no evidence at all. I'd love to hear him talk about how he managed that feat.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Personally, I'm impressed with how Rove managed to plant 12 of his minions on the jury and got them to convict Siegelman on absolutely no evidence at all. I'd love to hear him talk about how he managed that feat.
    It was easy. Siegelman's a crook and was guilty as hell.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Personally, I'm impressed with how Rove managed to plant 12 of his minions on the jury and got them to convict Siegelman on absolutely no evidence at all. I'd love to hear him talk about how he managed that feat.
    It has nothing much to do with the jurors. I guess you have not followed much regarding this case.

    Take a look at the judge and prosecutors, and get back to me, m'kay. If that sits right with you, then corruption is not a big thing to you. You better hope that no juror has a crush on the opposition when you're in court, but then again, you might not mind when she's allowed to pass a love note.
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    It was easy. Siegelman's a crook and was guilty as hell.
    If you believe that he deserves punishment for what he did, then you think the exact same for Dubya.

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    Plum positions for donations. That's what Seigleman is "guilty" of, and apparently by this article, it appears Dubya is too. Haul his ass to jail, I say!
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    Re: Karl Rove Subpoenaed By John Conyers: 'Time To Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Personally, I'm impressed with how Rove managed to plant 12 of his minions on the jury and got them to convict Siegelman on absolutely no evidence at all. I'd love to hear him talk about how he managed that feat.
    You don't have to get to the jury. You only have to get to the judge. The judge filters what the jury can and can't hear. It's not as if an injustice can't happen in a courtroom. Why won't Rove testify if it is so simple that he did nothing wrong?
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