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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Contraception to reduce cost?
    Sounds like eugenics vs the poor to me.
    Rockefeller said he was worried about population control and how it ruins his way of life. I think if too many people are ruining the way of life, he should kill himself.

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica View Post
    Contraception to reduce cost?
    Sounds like eugenics vs the poor to me.
    Rockefeller said he was worried about population control and how it ruins his way of life. I think if too many people are ruining the way of life, he should kill himself.
    No one is making birth control mandatory.
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    So you would rather pay for their unwanted pregnancy with WIC, food stamps, childcare, welfare, section 8(becuase they are more qualified as a single parent), and child tax credits? FYI- you are already paying for their irresponsiblity by much, much, much more.

    Also- I am not necessarily for spending all that money on birth control, but I would like to see the government help to make it more affordable and available to low income families and those without insurance.
    How much more affordable can FREE CONDOMS at your local clinic and $12 a pack at your local pharmacy get? Seriously do I have to deliver the condoms straight to their houses too so they don't spend money on gas or bus fare?
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    As to "not wanting to" use them. My freaking tax dollars shouldn't be going to paying for your wife to get birth control because "you don't want" to use condoms because they're inconvient or it feels better without them.
    If my tax dollars go towards preventing one teenage girls chance at a life not hobbled by an unexpected or unwanted child, perhpas giving her a chance at a full education or a full life, or if they keep one unwanted child from coming into this earth to live a life of sickness, starvation, and not having a chance to live a productive life then it is money well spent. Money better spent there than countless other facets of our government spending, there is a lot of spending that is MUCH more problematic than birth control. Maybe that money would be better off propping up some banking giant so that they can afford to buy out another competitor? Maybe it is better off funding lavish corporate getaways and expenditures. <shrug>

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    If my tax dollars go towards preventing one teenage girls chance at a life not hobbled by an unexpected or unwanted child, perhpas giving her a chance at a full education or a full life, or if they keep one unwanted child from coming into this earth to live a life of sickness, starvation, and not having a chance to live a productive life then it is money well spent. Money better spent there than countless other facets of our government spending, there is a lot of spending that is MUCH more problematic than birth control. Maybe that money would be better off propping up some banking giant so that they can afford to buy out another competitor? Maybe it is better off funding lavish corporate getaways and expenditures. <shrug>
    If you feel that it is a good use of your money then go give that money to a Charity that does it where everyone else who is giving the money is ALSO giving it for that reason.

    If YOU feel like its a good use of YOUR money, that's fine. The fact is, tax dollars aren't just YOUR money and what you feel is a good use of it may not be how other people feel. Its why these kind of things should be best left up to charities and the private sector than the government, so those of like mind can choose to do this without forcing those that don't agree with you on the notion or perhaps even the premise to also give their money.

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    Contraceptives for the poor or financially disadvantaged is a good investment. Anti-Choice overpopulationists deny the actual cost of children.
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    Let concerned private citizens "invest" their money and labor.

    Dept. of Condom Distribution is not a role for the Federal Government.

    I would prefer that busy bodies don't get busy with their ideas and my money.

    You and other concerned citizens should do it.
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    So the lefties around here have no problem with what is effectively an argument for the government to reduce the population to help the economy?

    None?

    BTW - what legitimate reason is there for the government to use tax dollars to subsidize contraceptives?

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    It's not about the money or being lazy, people in commited relationships simply do not want to use condoms. If they have been tested, there is absolutely no need for them and seeing how they are $6 a 3 pack- For people having sex atleast once a day that's over $60/month.
    Wait wait, I'm a low income person. Where do I sign up for the once a day thing? More importantly, where the heck did you come up with that number?

    I'm all for birth control. But transferring control of contraceptive funding from state to federal is a bad idea. This sets precedent for further loss of state control over federal control.

    States are in trouble due to failed spending policies and budgets. The government is already in enough trouble with the debt as is. The last thing they ought to be doing is spending more.

    Obama is scaring the crap out of me. This is the 3rd federal power grab initiative and expansion of government he's put forth. Once states lose these controls its hard as hell to get them back.

    p.s.- for once I'm agreeing with Hautey completely on this.

    How much more affordable can FREE CONDOMS at your local clinic and $12 a pack at your local pharmacy get? Seriously do I have to deliver the condoms straight to their houses too so they don't spend money on gas or bus fare?
    Please don't give them ideas. Because the answer is pretty much yes. There's no excuse for not using birth control except laziness. Even with my pitiful paycheck I can afford birth control. Heck I can even afford a diaphram and fitting for a girlfriend if needed.
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Ahem, why are the states subsidizing condom use in the first place? What legitimate reason exists for any unit of government to subsidize condom use?

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Ahem, why are the states subsidizing condom use in the first place? What legitimate reason exists for any unit of government to subsidize condom use?
    STD prevention would be a good reason to promote condom. Use.

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