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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Sigh.

    I consider adding "Family Planning" to the economic stimulus package on the grounds it will "Help the economy" to be rather a bit dishonest and absurd.

    So I tried to make that point by going a bit absurd myself. This went over the heads of a few of you. Not surprisingly some of you didn't just miss what I was saying but created your own reality bubble and interjected.

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    She is simply stating the truth. Preventing births to poor women will reduce the costs to the states and the Feds. Whether the birth is prevented pre or post conception does not alter that fact.

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    DRUDGE FLASH 2009: PELOSI SAYS BIRTH CONTROL WILL HELP ECONOMY
    Right, so let me get this straight, children are a burden on society, so we should limit children to help the country out.
    Not quite. It is children that grown up to be thick like Pelosi that are a burden on society.

    There is no sorting procedure possible to discover the combination of lunacy, political ambition and gullible regional voting blocs... so we're f***ed some of the time in this country and have to listen to the brilliance of Pelosi-like socialists wax eloquent about their deepest "Ah ha!" intellectual moments.
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    duplicate... post
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    I fully support contraception. If you do not want abortion and you do not want contraception either then start adopting or open your church coffers and start supporting these families instead of buying the pastor a new Lexus. Because to many families can not even afford the children they already have. As to abortion I am not a supporter of abortion as an alternative to contraception. I do believe that there are times when abortion should be a legitimate option. Living in a third world country where the influence of the Catholic church frowns on both contraception and abortion I have seen the results of over population and the many children that are simply abandoned to live in the streets as best they can.

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Birth control would help the economy. Contraception to those who would not have it otherwise makes sense. Pardon the generalization, but it does always seem that it is those that are least able to afford it are the ones who pop out baby after baby, or have those unwanted pregnancies, and these are the ones that would benefit from these programs.

    That could be one more teenage girl who is able to still have a fair chance at a life ahead of her without the burden of a pregnancy while she in fact is still a child herself. It could be her chance to stay in school, go to college, go out in the workforce, and make a reasonable income.

    On a personal level, any family, or individual who does not have an unexpected surprise will have a lot more money to go out and spend that would otherwise be spend on baby formula and diapers. Instead of struggling and worrying about feeding and clothing an unexpected unplanned child that money can go towards buying a new TV, going out to eat a few times a month, taking on a cpl hundred dollars a month for a car payment, getting out of a rental property and actually purchasing a home, ect. A child can, does and will alter a persons spending habits and priorities, regardless of how you slice it, younguns are expensive.

    On a state and federal fiscal level, there are less welfare babies, less foodstamps, less govmnt cheese going out, less uninsured children who WILL get medical treatment, even if it is at a "free" clinic that you and I pay for. Less child tax credits claimed equals more federal taxes in the coffers. The government will both save money, and receive more tax income (at least in the near term until that child could or would have became a working tax paying citizen itself).
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Is there anybody left in America who can't afford a pack of 3 anymore? They're like $6 for a generic brand....I don't see why money needs to be thrown at it. What forms of 'birth control' Is she talking about? Condoms are like a buck each and I know for fact in Compton alone there are AT LEAST 40 places that will give em to you for free. So as much as I'd like to I simply don't see the sense in this. I mean....yeah birth control. Woohoo. But the most basic form of birth control is so cheap nowadays it doesn't even make sense for the government to put money into the matter anymore.
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Ever priced an MAP? $50.00.

    Contraceptives for the poor or financially disadvantaged is a good investment. Anti-Choice overpopulationists deny the actual cost of children.

    The cost of sending a child to college can be $100,000.00 The cost of getting special training for learning-diabled chldren can be similar.

    The cost to the environment in additional pollution, including Mercury from coal into the oceans, and poisons into the ground water, is largely irreversible.

    Providing contraceptives to the poor gives a thousand fold return.

    Many Republicans oppose public funding for family planning because many Business men feel that more poor people gives more workers at cheaper labor. The social cost of depriving the poor of family planning is not calculated. Businesses don't pay the taxes to take care of the Lerning and Emotionally disabled that result from out-of-reach family planning options.


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    How much of the cost of Jails/Prisons in the US could be saved if better family planning was available to the poor?

    The US accounting system does not logically connect the Lines in the budgets.

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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote marduc:Birth control would help the economy. Contraception to those who would not have it otherwise makes sense. Pardon the generalization, but it does always seem that it is those that are least able to afford it are the ones who pop out baby after baby, or have those unwanted pregnancies, and these are the ones that would benefit from these programs.
    How about personal responsibility and stopping government handouts for baby production?
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    Re: Pelosi Says Birth Control Will Help Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    DRUDGE FLASH 2009: PELOSI SAYS BIRTH CONTROL WILL HELP ECONOMY

    Right, so let me get this straight, children are a burden on society, so we should limit children to help the country out.

    Isn't that a Mao line of thought? What next? Mandatory abortions and euthanasia to any kid born or found in the womb to be mentally deficient/retarded or otherwise a "financial burden"?

    Maybe we should limit couples to 1 child, think of the dough we'll save!
    FYI: Actually, this is NOT a Mao line of thought. Mao wanted women to have as many babies as possible, awarding women with large numbers of babies with awards. This is one of the reasons China has a massive overpopulation problem today.
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