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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Then that increases incentives to create mass transit, something we really, really, really need.

    People seem to have this odd notion that really poor people are buying cars. Where does that notion come from?

    And you ignore the flip side. The less we innovate, the further our position in the world economy slips. Who's going to get dumped on even more when that piper comes to collect his money? Those already in a ****ty position.
    That doesnt stop me from feeling bad for people that can't afford to get another car.

    I am ignoring nothing. I simply stated that I "Can't imagine how much that would suck" for them.
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    No, it's meant to show that they won't pass the United States EMISSIONS requirements.

    READ A POST IN IT'S ENTIRETY!
    As long as they put in a certain date, for vehicles that need to meet that restriction it shouldn't be a problem, especially if they make it coincide with the date the law takes effect(i.e. new emissions standards in 2009 only affects 2009 models and those going forward). But I always doubt the ability for common sense to find its way into legislation.

    I know here in North Carolina, I had to get emission test for my 98 Dodge Durango, but not my 95 Cougar. In Wisconsin, I didn't get tested for either car ever, and pollution wasn't a problem. So with their less population in Wisco, they probably don't need emission standards other states need, as whatever models come out that meet those standards would suffice.
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well, right off the top of my head there's the fiat, which gets an average of 50miles/gallon. That makes my toyota corolla (at 30miles/gallon) an absolute gas hog by comparison.
    And what are the drawbacks? Isn't that fiat a small compact car unable to pas US Highway safety regulations?

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    So you are all for state rights, unless of course it hits you in the pocketbook!!!!
    I didn't say that. You're cute though when you try to be witty.

    I can be for states rights and disagree with what a state does now can't I?

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Japan. Where efficiency is set to hit 50 mpg.
    And is that feasible in the USA? Is the cost a point that wouldn't impact people? Are these cars the same size as US Cars?

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Allowing the States to set their own standards is fine if those standards are limited to residents of that state. I do not think that can be imposed on businesses or vacationing people who are only there temporarily or just passing through. It is not reasonable to expect every states' standards to be known to every person.

    With that said, it is an issue better left to the States, and the federal government should stay out of it completely.

    This is a +1 for Obama in my book.

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Allowing the States to set their own standards is fine if those standards are limited to residents of that state. I do not think that can be imposed on businesses or vacationing people who are only there temporarily or just passing through. It is not reasonable to expect every states' standards to be known to every person.

    With that said, it is an issue better left to the States, and the federal government should stay out of it completely.

    This is a +1 for Obama in my book.
    It would almost certainly only apply to vehicles that are registered in California.
    Affiant further sayeth not.

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Great. So now, Detroit most likely won't be able to sell it's cars in California. Way to stimulate that economy, Obama. Dumbass.
    It isn't Obama forcing higher standards, it is the states. The states have this right. Frankly, even Detroit admits it needs to change the way it does things. This is one of those areas, and if California and other states see a need for stricter standards, they should enact them and provide more impetus to force Detroit to do what it needs to do.

    The Japanese automakers can meet the standards. Why can't Detroit?
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And what are the drawbacks? Isn't that fiat a small compact car unable to pas US Highway safety regulations?
    Is it?

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    It's gonna suck for people who have old P.O.S. cars that barely make the emissions requirements as is.

    I can't imagine already being in that position and now being told that you can't use your car
    Just be thankful you aren't in Singapore where you are not allowed to have a car older than three years old on the road.
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