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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    The odd thing is that in other countries, countries that don't worship their cars like we do, have higher fuel efficiency and lower cost...
    That is a crock. I would love to get a Vauxhall down here and can't because it won't pass any states emission or cafe standards, it has to be retrofitted which would basically invalidate the warranty, it is an English car BTW.
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    This sounds like a lose for everyone.

    This is going to raise the cost of new vehicles... damn, more screw the poor to make the rich feel good about saving the earth... GOOD JOB!

    While I'm all for states rights... this is gonna raise the cost of cars for everyone.
    So you are all for state rights, unless of course it hits you in the pocketbook!!!!
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    It's gonna suck for people who have old P.O.S. cars that barely make the emissions requirements as is.

    I can't imagine already being in that position and now being told that you can't use your car
    Who said you can't continue to drive older cars? We still have people driving cars that don't have seatbelts! Go ask another 3rd grader for a different idea.

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That is a crock. I would love to get a Vauxhall down here and can't because it won't pass any states emission or cafe standards, it has to be retrofitted which would basically invalidate the warranty, it is an English car BTW.
    What does that have to do with the discussion? No one said anything about importing a European car. Oh, I see, this was meant to show that European cars don't get better gas mileage.

    The Vauxhall Agila gets 62.8mpg and has a list price of 7,631.05 which is about 10k US. (for the show model which is more expensive than the base model)

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    Who said you can't continue to drive older cars? We still have people driving cars that don't have seatbelts! Go ask another 3rd grader for a different idea.
    If emissions tests get stricter then more of the ****tier (Cheap) cars will be illegal to drive in those areas.

    Keep your personal attacks out of this thread and try to respond with some dignity please.
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    What does that have to do with the discussion? No one said anything about importing a European car. Oh, I see, this was meant to show that European cars don't get better gas mileage.

    The Vauxhall Agila gets 62.8mpg and has a list price of 7,631.05 which is about 10k US. (for the show model which is more expensive than the base model)
    No, it's meant to show that they won't pass the United States EMISSIONS requirements.

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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Do they really, please which ones? And examples of this "lower cost higher efficiency" please.
    Japan. Where efficiency is set to hit 50 mpg.
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    If emissions tests get stricter then more of the ****tier (Cheap) cars will be illegal to drive in those areas.
    And that's bad? Furthermore by doing this we can force our own producers to innovate to meet the requirements and then sell those cars to other countries raising our exports and increasing our economy. Honda made billions off inventing a highly efficient engine that could meet emission standards without having to install a catalytic converter.
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And that's bad? Furthermore by doing this we can force our own producers to innovate to meet the requirements and then sell those cars to other countries raising our exports and increasing our economy. Honda made billions off inventing a highly efficient engine that could meet emission standards without having to install a catalytic converter.
    Of course in the long run it would be great.

    Like I Said though, the people already in a ****ty position are just going to get dumped on even more.
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    Re: Obama to Let States Restrict Emissions Standards

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    Of course in the long run it would be great.

    Like I Said though, the people already in a ****ty position are just going to get dumped on even more.
    Then that increases incentives to create mass transit, something we really, really, really need.

    People seem to have this odd notion that really poor people are buying cars. Where does that notion come from?

    And you ignore the flip side. The less we innovate, the further our position in the world economy slips. Who's going to get dumped on even more when that piper comes to collect his money? Those already in a ****ty position.
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