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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    You may not, but I do as do tens of millions of other Americans.
    Sorry to derail this discussion, but I think I need to make a statement to ludahai.

    Ludahai - Note the part I bolded. You have just inferred that you are an American. I have thrown some rocks your way in the past, saying that what you think doesn't matter because you are Taiwanese. If you are actually an American, even if you are living in Taiwan, then I owe you an apology, and I have no problems making the apology public.

    Sorry I acted like an asshole.

    Now back to the discussion.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    I personally could care less what the pope thinks. Obviously there are going to be tons of things that he doesn't agree with. Thankfully we are a government that isn't dictated by a single religious dogma.

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Who is "you"? Also, should I hold "you" responsible for what your family or affiliates did hundreds or thousands of years ago?
    The Catholic Church isn't like a family or friends etc etc. It's more like a company that refuses to acknowledge it's wrong doings even after it's been proven wrong and even then it takes it so long to apologize for being wrong that nobody really cares anymore because very few people are even aware of what it's talking about. The Catholic Church isn't some constantly changing entity that is not the same today as it was 100 years ago. It is a group that sure, it changes, but most of the time, the changes are so minuscule that the only ones who will notice or care are devout Catholics and historians.

    Think about it this way. The Nazi German government sent millions to die. What happened after the fall of Nazi Germany? The new German government was expected to apologize for it's wrong doings. What happened? That's exactly what it did.

    When the American government sent Japanese Americans into internment camps what happened after it released them? It apologized, said it was wrong and gave them reparations. What happened after the inquisition? Nothing. The Church, much to the dismay of Catholic revisionists, charged Galileo with heresy. What happened after the Catholic Church was proven wrong and Galileo right? Nothing. It took the church hundreds of years to even apologize for it's mistakes in any shape matter or form.

    So what do we have at the end? The same company facing the same issues and refusing to apologize in any shape manner or form for it's wrong doings until long after they've become irrelevant.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Have y'all read this?
    I find it extremely troubling.
    If I hadn't already broken with the church years ago, I'd take the opportunity to do so now.

    Read it:

    AFP: Jewish anger as pope reinstates Holocaust-denier
    Too bad for Catholic haters that the original excommunications had nothing to do with Holocaust denial. The linkage is absolutely irrelevant.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Sorry to derail this discussion, but I think I need to make a statement to ludahai.

    Ludahai - Note the part I bolded. You have just inferred that you are an American. I have thrown some rocks your way in the past, saying that what you think doesn't matter because you are Taiwanese. If you are actually an American, even if you are living in Taiwan, then I owe you an apology, and I have no problems making the apology public.

    Sorry I acted like an asshole.

    Now back to the discussion.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Last I heard, even most catholics ignore the pope on birth control issues....
    Only a few of the most vocal ones get on the bandwagon about abortion.
    People are going to do what they will, and 99.9% will do it even if their religious leaders say it is a sin. He is just a pope, not a dictator...
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Another generation, and we won't have to deal with such issues anymore.
    Everyone who was alive in that entire era will be dead.
    It's been- what, almost seventy years now?
    Maybe then we can have a History Channel instead of a Nazi Channel.

    That'll be nice.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    What?

    Really? Really?

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    Maybe then we can have a History Channel instead of a Nazi Channel.

    That'll be nice.
    That's true. All you ever see on the history channel his hitler and nostradamus.

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Last I heard, even most catholics ignore the pope on birth control issues....
    Only a few of the most vocal ones get on the bandwagon about abortion.
    People are going to do what they will, and 99.9% will do it even if their religious leaders say it is a sin. He is just a pope, not a dictator...
    Then what the hell is the point? If you don't listen to the pope then aren't you just episcopalian?
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