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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Aren't conservatives the ones that have said Muslims should stand up against the radicals? Why is it any different that saying those should have stood up against the Nazis and not joined them?
    He was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD for goodness sake. He WAS ENROLLED, he didn't join by choice. He refused to attend meetings and his father was also against Nazism. What do you want, a 14-year-old to take a gun to a meeting and start firing?
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Do we really give a rats arse what Pope Benedict thinks?

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Do we really give a rats arse what Pope Benedict thinks?
    You may not, but I do as do tens of millions of other Americans.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Hypocrite:

    Though shalt not kill. Then you go and burn "witches".

    Though shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.
    Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's (goods). Though shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor. Then you go and rape choir boys and the higher ups cover up the crime.

    The church has always been and will always be a joke. Practice what you preach? I don't think so.

    Edit: Thought of another one: They did some great work during WWII. You know, they whole opposing Hitler left and right thing. Oh wait, they didn't do ANYTHING! Yeah, way to stand up for the less fortunate. You should be so proud of the Catholic Church.
    Who is "you"? Also, should I hold "you" responsible for what your family or affiliates did hundreds or thousands of years ago?

    Aren't conservatives the ones that have said Muslims should stand up against the radicals? Why is it any different that saying those should have stood up against the Nazis and not joined them?
    I've said things like this before but I'm not sure why you think I would hold fourteen year old boys to this standard. When I say Muslims should stand up against radicals I am more specifically referring to Muslim men, I just assumed as much would be obvious.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Hypocrite:

    Though shalt not kill. Then you go and burn "witches".

    Though shalt not commit adultery. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.
    Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's (goods). Though shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor. Then you go and rape choir boys and the higher ups cover up the crime.

    The church has always been and will always be a joke. Practice what you preach? I don't think so.

    Edit: Thought of another one: They did some great work during WWII. You know, they whole opposing Hitler left and right thing. Oh wait, they didn't do ANYTHING! Yeah, way to stand up for the less fortunate. You should be so proud of the Catholic Church.
    Who is "you"? Also, should I hold "you" responsible for what your family or affiliates did hundreds or thousands of years ago?

    Aren't conservatives the ones that have said Muslims should stand up against the radicals? Why is it any different that saying those should have stood up against the Nazis and not joined them?
    I've said things like this before but I'm not sure why you think I would hold fourteen year old boys to this standard. When I say Muslims should stand up against radicals I am more specifically refering to Muslim men, I just assumed as much would be obvious.

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Have y'all read this?
    I find it extremely troubling.
    If I hadn't already broken with the church years ago, I'd take the opportunity to do so now.

    Read it:

    AFP: Jewish anger as pope reinstates Holocaust-denier

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    If I was a member of a church and they excommunicated someone for saying he didn't believe the Nazis used Gas Chambers (the former bishop in question doesn't deny the killing of jews), I'd leave.

    He's an idiot nonetheless, don't get me wrong. I don't see how it's any different than someone saying they don't believe our country butchered millions of Natives, and while I find their denial sicking, I don't think God will judge them on it. Though He may have to re-educate a few.

    Anyway, I wanted to add that I've only read a few stories concerning this case, and for all I know the Bishop is a hammer skin. If he is really anti-semitic, and raising the issue because he doesn't like Jews, then **** him.
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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Anyway, I wanted to add that I've only read a few stories concerning this case, and for all I know the Bishop is a hammer skin.
    Haha. That would be funny.

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Another statement from the ignorant regarding the Church, its teachings, and its history. You have tried this one before Kali. We are onto your tactics.
    Who is We? Sounds like some sort of secret club or something.

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    Re: Vatican attacks US abortion move

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    He was FOURTEEN YEARS OLD for goodness sake. He WAS ENROLLED, he didn't join by choice. He refused to attend meetings and his father was also against Nazism. What do you want, a 14-year-old to take a gun to a meeting and start firing?
    Another generation, and we won't have to deal with such issues anymore.
    Everyone who was alive in that entire era will be dead.
    It's been- what, almost seventy years now?

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