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Brazilian amputee model dead at 20 - CNN.com

Brazilian model Mariana Bridi da Costa, whose hands and feet were amputated in a bid to save her from a deadly and little-known illness, died early Saturday, two friends of the model told CNN.

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One day we may master death.
But I think we will never understand, why.
 
I'm sorry for her family and all that, but for the life of me I cannot see how this even made the news. In the great scheme of things, one more person dying doesn't make much difference, but a model dying apparently makes the news.
 
Brazilian amputee model dead at 20 - CNN.com



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One day we may master death.
But I think we will never understand, why.


"That is not dead which can eternal lie; yet with strange aeons, even Death may die."

~ HP Lovecraft

I don't think she has been conscious since the amputations began, but I am sorry for her parents. I'm sorry they had to watch that happen to her.

I'm glad this horror is over, and I hope that at some point this family can find peace.
 
I'm sorry for her family and all that, but for the life of me I cannot see how this even made the news. In the great scheme of things, one more person dying doesn't make much difference, but a model dying apparently makes the news.


Maybe it was about bringing attention to the "deadly and little-known illness" that afflicted her.
 
Maybe it was about bringing attention to the "deadly and little-known illness" that afflicted her.

What illness was that? They said she had kidney stones, and then a bladder infection. How does that turn into the amputations and death? I was thinking she may have actually had bacterial meningitis and was grossly misdiagnosed. The amputaions occur many times even with a prompt diagnosis in the case of this disease.

Very sad. :(
 
Maybe it was about bringing attention to the "deadly and little-known illness" that afflicted her.

Having some medical background, I have to point out sepsis in and of itself is not "little-known" nor all that rare. Especially these days as multiple-antibiotic resistant bacteria proliferate unchecked around the world. It is becoming quite an epidemic these days now that antibiotics are becoming less and less effective.

Our times are changing fundamentally in more ways than one, since the one thing that has made modern medicine effective in the last 100 years, antibiotics, has very noticeably begun to lose its potency everywhere in the world. It may well become a common truism in the future to say in the field of medicine that the "procedure was a success, but the patient died."
 
I'm sorry for her family and all that, but for the life of me I cannot see how this even made the news. In the great scheme of things, one more person dying doesn't make much difference, but a model dying apparently makes the news.

I`m with you on this one...,"This is news" ?
 
Having some medical background, I have to point out sepsis in and of itself is not "little-known" nor all that rare. Especially these days as multiple-antibiotic resistant bacteria proliferate unchecked around the world. It is becoming quite an epidemic these days now that antibiotics are becoming less and less effective.

Our times are changing fundamentally in more ways than one, since the one thing that has made modern medicine effective in the last 100 years, antibiotics, has very noticeably begun to lose its potency everywhere in the world. It may well become a common truism in the future to say in the field of medicine that the "procedure was a success, but the patient died."


See what happens when you don't read the entire article? :3oops:


the "procedure was a success, but the patient died."


looks like.
 
Having some medical background, I have to point out sepsis in and of itself is not "little-known" nor all that rare. Especially these days as multiple-antibiotic resistant bacteria proliferate unchecked around the world. It is becoming quite an epidemic these days now that antibiotics are becoming less and less effective.

Our times are changing fundamentally in more ways than one, since the one thing that has made modern medicine effective in the last 100 years, antibiotics, has very noticeably begun to lose its potency everywhere in the world. It may well become a common truism in the future to say in the field of medicine that the "procedure was a success, but the patient died."

Yeah, before the advent of the 20th century, one in four women died "in childbirth" (actually, a few days after childbirth), of sepsis, or puerperal fever- what was commonly known as 'childbed fever".
That's caused by Streptococcus pyogenes, however, and I think this model had Pseudomonas aeruginosa, which is a different bacteria, but either way, the result is similar: septicemia. Massive, systematic infection.
 
I caught the story before she died. When I read they amp'd her feet and hands, removed both kineys(how) and her stomach, I was thinking she would probably be better off dead. I know that sounds heartless, but who'd want to live after that? Sad. Also a reminder of how ER docs get it wrong a lot.
 
One of my cats died a few weeks ago. I wonder if I should call the news media and ask for an article. Nah, that would be tacky. I should really ask them why there is a lot less real news now than a decade ago.

Dude. I only posted this because there were topics all over the forum for this chick. And if you want to equate a human life to your cats, then go right ahead.

I found a sobering and stunning connection with this event. Something who was considered one of the most beautiful women on the planet can so quickly and so suddenly lose all beauty. It's mortality man, and sometimes it sucks.
 
One of my cats died a few weeks ago. I wonder if I should call the news media and ask for an article. Nah, that would be tacky. I should really ask them why there is a lot less real news now than a decade ago.

Oops; what happened to "can we please have a moment of silent prayer here??"
Remember when a couple of people at Haggart's church got shot by some psychotic ex-church member last year?

The mask is slipping.
 
I caught the story before she died. When I read they amp'd her feet and hands, removed both kineys(how) and her stomach, I was thinking she would probably be better off dead. I know that sounds heartless, but who'd want to live after that? Sad. Also a reminder of how ER docs get it wrong a lot.

I think most everybody probably thought the same thing you did. No hands and feet means no life. You'll be a talking head for the most part. Will always need an assistant.

I didn't see where this started in the ER. My son went to the ER with a busted appendix and they sent him home with the flu. Ruptured appendixes can be difficult to diagnose, but this was a teaching hospital. My son went back a few days later via ambulance, and get this, the ambulance guys made fun of him, and said, "you're a big boy, can't you walk"?. My son was furious over this, but my husband who becomes a real candyass when it comes to medical personnel wouldn't let us get confrontational with this company, or the hospital. I know now that confrontational would have been the right way to go. Professionals need to act professional.
 
I think most everybody probably thought the same thing you did. No hands and feet means no life. You'll be a talking head for the most part. Will always need an assistant.

That's not necessarily true.

On the other hand, given the extreme gravity of her condition, I don't think there's any chance she could've been saved.
I think the amputations were unnecessary.
I do not think she was ever conscious once they began, so she didn't suffer any because of them, but her family certainly did.
They probably could've just as well been spared witnessing this desecration, and left with a pretty corpse to bury, rather than a mutilated one, given that she had no real chance of survival anyway once the toxemia set in.
If anything, this is a case of medical personnel doing too much.
They must've known nothing would save her.
 
That's not necessarily true.

On the other hand, given the extreme gravity of her condition, I don't think there's any chance she could've been saved.
I think the amputations were unnecessary.
I do not think she was ever conscious once they began, so she didn't suffer any because of them, but her family certainly did.
They probably could've just as well been spared witnessing this desecration, and left with a pretty corpse to bury, rather than a mutilated one, given that she had no real chance of survival anyway once the toxemia set in.
If anything, this is a case of medical personnel doing too much.
They must've known nothing would save her.

Hey, I agree wholeheartedly, but the family should have been asking a lot of questions and doing research. The internet is full of info.

I wonder if she was misdiagnosed early on which this seems like a possibility, but I'm no expert.
 
That's not necessarily true.

On the other hand, given the extreme gravity of her condition, I don't think there's any chance she could've been saved.
I think the amputations were unnecessary.
I do not think she was ever conscious once they began, so she didn't suffer any because of them, but her family certainly did.
They probably could've just as well been spared witnessing this desecration, and left with a pretty corpse to bury, rather than a mutilated one, given that she had no real chance of survival anyway once the toxemia set in.
If anything, this is a case of medical personnel doing too much.
They must've known nothing would save her.

She was conscious after the amp, and they communicated to her by eye movement. They asked a series of questions, one being something like , do you want to go on(live) and she responded yes. I'm guessing they did, blink once for yes, twice for no.

Marilyn, that's messed up what they said to your son. You must have good restraint!
 
She was conscious after the amp, and they communicated to her by eye movement. They asked a series of questions, one being something like , do you want to go on(live) and she responded yes. I'm guessing they did, blink once for yes, twice for no.

Marilyn, that's messed up what they said to your son. You must have good restraint!

I didn't do what I felt I should cause my husband is always seemingly unconcerned over stuff like this. I think it's called being a yellow-belly. In the end I was the yellow-belly. I'm sorry for it. :(
 
I should really ask them why there is a lot less real news now than a decade ago.

It's because antibiotics are become less effective, therefore the news gets worse.
 
Yeah, I went there for a moment but I don't want to think about that today.

LOL! I almost gave it up myself when I couldn't think of the word "antibiotics". Fortunately for us all I soldiered through the brain fart and supplied us all with a very mild form of entertainment.
 
I'm sorry for her family and all that, but for the life of me I cannot see how this even made the news. In the great scheme of things, one more person dying doesn't make much difference, but a model dying apparently makes the news.

Cause I think, subconsciously, it brings out an important point.

The most "beautiful" (yes, that is relative..'beauty is in the eyes of the beholder')woman had to get her perfect image horribly tainted. In the end, you have no control.
 
Originally Posted by Indy
It's because antibiotics are become less effective, therefore the news gets worse.
while absolutely true, I thought this illness in partricular was always resistant to the meds
but what do i know :shrug:
 
Cause I think, subconsciously, it brings out an important point.

The most "beautiful" (yes, that is relative..'beauty is in the eyes of the beholder')woman had to get her perfect image horribly tainted. In the end, you have no control.

She was 20, unmarried, and had no kids.
The only people in the world who probably really loved her were her parents, and I seriously doubt they gave a crap whether she was "beautiful"; I'm sure they'd cheerfully gouge out their eyes to have her alive again, even "horribly tainted", ie with prosthetic hands and feet (I am seriously not getting the "god, who'd want to live in that condition? You'd basically just be a talking head, and always need assistance" attitude here; plenty of people live fulfilling and independent lives with prosthetics).
This isn't sad because she was "beautiful"; she wasn't alive long enough for it to even matter.
It's sad because her parents have lost their child.
Although if she'd survived, I think she would've learned to live and function with prostheses- and they make such good ones now that you can't even necessarily tell they're prosthetic- I don't think she had much chance of survival once the infection set in, and so it's doubly sad that her parents had to witness her all cut up before she died, and that will be their last memory of her, since they never had a chance to put her back together again or see her recover.
If that makes any sense.
 
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