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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    No. It's fine actually. I am perfectly fine with you calling me an asshole. Please, don't refrain.

    All mods get this. I give Felicity all rights to call me whatever hateful, and spiteful things (she?) can think of. I have many more problems to worry about then someone on a forum calling me an asshole.
    see...but I actually DO hold myself to a higher standard, so I won't be lowering myself to your level.

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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by moe View Post
    Not really. Biblically it is the Christian thing to do. We state that we disagree with the person and then we take the person and try to counsel/reason with them.

    Whether protestant or Catholic it is the proper thing to do. We should not aboandon our brothers and sisters in Christ but rather offer fellowship and healing.

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    Too bad the guy you choose to call your brother in the name of Christianity is a Holocaust denier. But hey. More power to you I guess.
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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The only thing I see is maybe a personal attack when he said "YOU", but other than that it is no worse than what I have seen others say about the Muslim religion sorry.
    Well that's wrong too. I certainly don't engage in that evil.

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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    No. It's fine actually. I am perfectly fine with you calling me an asshole. Please, don't refrain.

    All mods get this. I give Felicity all rights to call me whatever hateful, and spiteful things (she?) can think of. I have many more problems to worry about then someone on a forum calling me an asshole.
    You're missing the point entirely. You made an inflammatory comment in reference to the Catholic Church; that you qualified the statement with some kind of excuse does nothing to alter this. The mature thing to do would be to simply retract your statement and apologize. People admit mistakes all the time and if this forum's perception of you means as little as you say it does then feel free to prove it by setting your ego aside and admitting your fault.

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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicity View Post
    see...but I actually DO hold myself to a higher standard, so I won't be lowering myself to your level.
    Then could you please stop complaining about us attacking your 2nd lord and savior? And find a way to defend such a public figure, or is the bad part of this that what we are saying is partially true.

    Please be aware that I am not trying to unsettle you, or make fun of you as a person. I am sure you are a kind person, and mean no disrespect to you as a person, and I accept your rights to believe in anything you want to, as long as it is not harming another.

    Now with that done, I mean complete disrespect to the position of the Pope.
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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The only thing I see is maybe a personal attack when he said "YOU", but other than that it is no worse than what I have seen others say about the Muslim religion sorry.

    EDIT: change that, it was said about the pope, so not a personal attack, nothing wrong I see compared to what others have said about Muslims.
    Read the rule again. The comments made about the religion are a violation of rule 18.
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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You're missing the point entirely. You made an inflammatory comment in reference to the Catholic Church; that you qualified the statement with some kind of excuse does nothing to alter this. The mature thing to do would be to simply retract your statement and apologize. People admit mistakes all the time and if this forum's perception of you means as little as you say it does then feel free to prove it by setting your ego aside and admitting your fault.
    Okay dokey.

    That's all someone has to say, that my comments are without respect to the person.
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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The only thing I see is maybe a personal attack when he said "YOU", but other than that it is no worse than what I have seen others say about the Muslim religion sorry.

    EDIT: change that, it was said about the pope, so not a personal attack, nothing wrong I see compared to what others have said about Muslims.
    Those are attacks against Catholics--a group of people identified by their religious affiliation. The pope is not "Catholics" or the religion of "Catholic"--he is the spiritual leader of the people. Those posts attacked the people who call themselves "Catholic". It's hate speech plain and simple.

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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Too bad the guy you choose to call your brother in the name of Christianity is a Holocaust denier. But hey. More power to you I guess.
    We don't get to choose our brothers and sisters in Christ. There are Holocaust deniers everywhere. This is NOT the position of the church. Being a Holocaust denier, as disgusting as that is, is NOT grounds for denial of the Sacrament. This is such a NON-ISSUE it is insane. The anti-Catholics are really grasping for straws on this one. It is amusing even if it wasn't accompanied by the same bigoted remarks the anti-Catholics always come up with regarding altar boys and the like.
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    Re: Pope move ignites Holocaust row

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Too bad the guy you choose to call your brother in the name of Christianity is a Holocaust denier. But hey. More power to you I guess.
    I am sure that there are other Christians that are holocaust deniers for what ever reasons. Should I disfellowship with them or should I try to open their eye's?

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