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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    as a pro-life american I find this ironic.



    the joker targeted all kinds of public places, a hospital included. I don't think he would personally knife any babies to death, but he would blow up a building they were in.
    The joker was a fictional character.....
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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    A person who's mentally ill can commit acts that they wouldn't if they were of sound mind or under proper medication. It seems to be a problem more than ever. By killing this man (or as you described, "putting him down") it will not accomplish one thing, IMO. What this incident should do, though, is raise awareness of this, and enact laws (i.e. a mentally ill person must take their medication or will go directly to jail) or something else. I don't know.

    Just in the last few months here in Canada, there's been 2 incidents of of a father killing his whole family, to the shock of other family, neighbours and friends. It turn out they both had mental issues.
    You cannot force someone to take their medication. You cannot make sure that someone is always within their "sound mind". What if this person is clearly not "insane"? What if he is? Doesn't matter. Murder is muder no matter which way you look at it. I don't care what state of mind you are in. If you're drunk--that doesn't excuse you. If you're supposed to be on medication and are not, that doesn't excuse you. If you're high, that doesn't excuse you. There are consequences for ones actions. There are no excuses if you straight up murder someone.

    Anyone can claim they have mental issues. I'd say it's fair to say that most people have mental issues. But it doesn't mean that they should be let off because they have issues.
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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    If you don't have your mental abilities you're not responsible. Kids are not responsible, and retardeds aren't neither.

    A man with a mental illness and who kills someone won't be jailed. However, he'll be sent to a psychiatric institution for the rest of his life.
    Children are still punished. And as they should be.
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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamic View Post
    The joker was a fictional character.....
    Are you blind? Haven't you seen Jack Nicholson, the Joker is as real as J.N.

    And as dead as...

    well...

    nevermind.
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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Are you blind? Haven't you seen Jack Nicholson, the Joker is as real as J.N.

    And as dead as...

    well...

    nevermind.
    ...my bad....
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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Amazing that abortion can find it's way into this discussion. Sorry... it's off-topic.
    amazing that abortion can find its way into a discussion about murdering babies? not to me.

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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamic View Post
    Children are still punished. And as they should be.
    Their parents are responsible if they crash the car or set the neighbor's house on fire.

    And if they wound/kill someone they go to specialised courts (I don't know how you call it, here it is the "judge for youth") that takes special measures because at a low age there are still chances to re-educate them and change them. Sending them to jail is not the appropriate measure to take.

    As for the crazy/retardeds...who commit crimes, a jail is not the appropriate place to them: they are ill and should be treated. When they are dangerous they aren't allowed to get out of the psychiatric center, but it's not a "penal measure", it's not a "jail". The result is the same (they don't get out) but the goal (punishing vs healing) and the measures (jail vs psychiatric center) are different

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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Having said that, would you not agree that this person is NOT of sound mind?
    I am not going to makes a trans-Eurasiatic diagnosis. He does sound pretty messed up though.
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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Someone who does something like this is empty and devoid of any emotions. Kinda reminds me of something from a horror movie and like something Micheal Myers would do

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    Re: He kills 2 babies and a nurse with a knife

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    amazing that abortion can find its way into a discussion about murdering babies? not to me.
    You do know the differences between an embryo, a fetus, and a baby right? Abortions don't "kill babies."

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