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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    No she talked about not waiting for a mushroom cloud. You and Moon both need to read post 107 very carefully. I won't hold my breath for Moon, but surely you'll get it.
    Again, she was creating a hypothetical. This is NOT a lie. Her point was to do something BEFORE this happens. This is NOT a lie if it is something that the information you have access to leads to that as a possibility.
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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post

    I know how the US system works. You claim something about party politics, then you do not even prove it, and then claim you are right, and use your silly assumption to bombard me with irrelevant stuff whenever I mention anything about US politics, thats just ridiculous and highly annoying.
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    It WAS shown by myself as well as others. You are European, so you can not be expected to know the nuances of the US system. I have lived through it and have a MA in political science. I have a FAR BETTER understanding of the mechanics of the US system than most other Americans go. Remember, others from the US also confirmed what I was saying.

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    To qualify for the election, you only have to:

    1. Met the requirements in the Federal Constitution for the office of president;
    2. Be a registered Democrat of Republican (whatever the case may be)

    No provision for the party leadership to disqualify a candidate as you claimed in another thread. Will you finally yield on that point and admit you were wrong?
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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Except that there was obviously credible intel at some point that Saddam was seeking WMDs, UNLIKE the Vatican.
    Obviously, it wasn't credible.
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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Is this the best you can come up with?
    Is that what I said?

    Didn't you notice the CONDITIONAL language used? 'Could'?
    Very good. I'm impressed that you see my point. Do you take a country to war with such thin accusations? He didn't even say "our" intelligence agencies said Iraq had WMDs. He insinuated the Brits did, which they didn't. Now I wonder, what would his reasons be for using another country's proven false claims? Hmmm....

    Want some heavier proof Bush lied and pushed the CIA to carry their water on this? Look into the differences between the White Paper, that the CIA released, and the unclassified NIE report released later. Can you explain the differences? Could it be that Bush and Cheney (whose fingerprints are all over this!) knew that the NIE's actual report would not convince the country that Iraq posed a big enough threat to us? Perhaps it needed a little "modification" to get their lies across as the truth.

    For example:
    As the Bush administration ratcheted up its case for war in September 2002, senators on the Intelligence Committee wrote to the director of central intelligence, George J. Tenet, requesting an NIE about Iraq's weapons programs and any connections to Al Qaeda. With Congress set to vote on the war resolution the next month, intelligence officials rushed to produce the estimate.

    But the Senate committee's sharpest criticism of the unclassified document focused not on changes made in haste but on the systematic alteration of the classified version.

    For example, the panel cited changes made in the section of the NIE dealing with chemical weapons:

    "Although we have little specific information on Iraq's CW stockpile," the classified NIE read, "Saddam Hussein probably has stocked at least 100 metric tons" of such poisons.

    In the unclassified version of the report, the phrase "although we have little specific information" was deleted. Instead, the public report said, "Saddam probably has stocked a few hundred metric tons of CW agents."

    The Senate report also noted one instance in which a dissenting view was left out of the unclassified version.

    In that example, the classified NIE stated that Iraq was developing unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, "probably intended to deliver biological warfare agents."

    But in a footnote, the U.S. Air Force's director for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance said he did not agree.

    By eliminating that footnote from the unclassified version, the panel said, the public NIE "is missing the fact that [the] agency with primary responsibility for technological analysis on UAV programs did not agree with the assessment."
    CIA Blacked Out Knowledge from NIE Report

    And don't forget that Cheney's own fact finding investigation into whether Iraq tried to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger was shown to be wrong. Yet, Cheney and Bush ignored that report and even tried to "kill the messenger" by going after Ambassador Joe Wilson and in the process commit another crime by outing a covert CIA agent.

    Bush, Cheney, Rove and company are criminals and will be prosecuted.

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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Obviously, it wasn't credible.
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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Again, she was creating a hypothetical. This is NOT a lie. Her point was to do something BEFORE this happens. This is NOT a lie if it is something that the information you have access to leads to that as a possibility.
    No, Rice was lying to use FEAR to push us into war. Even though she and Cheney and Bush had been warned that all evidence to the contrary was not reliable, they all continued to push their lies on the American people.
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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hindsight does not bestow wisdom.
    It shows the follie of the pre-emptive doctrine.
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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    No, Rice was lying to use FEAR to push us into war. Even though she and Cheney and Bush had been warned that all evidence to the contrary was not reliable, they all continued to push their lies on the American people.





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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Where does the buck stop?
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    Re: Official: UN may prosecute Bush administration, regardless of US action

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It shows the follie of the pre-emptive doctrine.
    To an extent, the real scary part is, in the future it will be harder to act, and we may all yet live to regret that.

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