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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Great, and how do you do that when they keep using guns, bombs and attacks? Hmm?
    Please, tell me who is "they". You are generalizing, buddy. There is no one universal approach. It is different for each group.

    Yep, and kill enough of them, the ideology dies
    You'd make a great fascist. That does not work. You do not understand how ideologies work, apparently; especially in a world where you don't have to be in the same hemisphere to believe in the same one.

    What if that ideology hinges on defeating yours and bringing about World Islamic Rule as the path to happiness? Hmm?
    Bahaha you think there is a possibility of a World Islamic Rule? Are you completely insane? The world is about balance. Read any dystopian novel and you will see that when the world/human society cannot possibly thrive without a balance.

    Yeah, cuase if you turn your back on those groups they might choose your family as their next "human shields"
    Why would it matter to you? Apparently you wanted to mow down the lot of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    What warped world do you live in?
    I would love to see you defend an idea that this world isn't warped.

    We call people terrorists because they think differently than we do?

    And we don't call them terrorists because they use airliners to bomb skyscrapers, use cars to bomb embassies, use men and women to conduct suicide bombings, etc., etc., etc.?
    Actually it depends on the reaction of the people who are subjected to it. If America was to go bomb a home, even if it was for politically correct purposes or whatever those possibly could be, and citizens surrounding are terrified from the event then the attack is a terrorist attack and America is a terrorist state. I have a problem with that word applying to one group of people, but not another.

    Where do you get off reinventing history here?
    Please explain
    I always like the cliched Orwell stuff, it's so much easier for you people to speak in cliches rather than address actual issues and arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I'd like to address this specific comment and ask you two questions: "You forget that groups like Hamas and Hezbollah have large wings that do nothing but give aid to the slums of their respective countries. "

    Where do you think the MONEY for Hamas and Hezbollah's generosity comes from?
    Well, for Hamas I know there was a point in time were America gave them money. You know, we sorta wanted them to win their election, but changed our minds about it as soon as it happened. There's the famous story where Condi is up at 5 a.m. EST doing her treadmill work-out whenever she's informed that Hamas won (no one thought it was going to happen-- they campaigned well, and kept their Anti-Israeli sentiment on the down-low) her reply was an immediate embargo.

    Secondly; why do you think they have to distribute food and aid to the general population?
    1) To gain popularity.
    2) Because no one else is taking the job.
    3) Because Gaza is the most densely populated section of the world, and about 8 miles in size, therefore it is practically a slum.
    After I see your answers I will give you my responses.
    I will be glad to see your responses.
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    See how the libs bitch if we follow the Geneva Convention, but then cry like babies when Texas doesn't follow that idiot UN convention through the Hague for some Mexican rapist. They're two-faced about everything.
    Where I am consistent and believe we should abide by and use the rights granted the US in the Geneva Convention while also following the Vienna Convention discussed in another thread.
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Where I am consistent and believe we should abide by and use the rights granted the US in the Geneva Convention while also following the Vienna Convention discussed in another thread.
    Are you a lib(eral)?
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are you a lib(eral)?
    No, most certainly not. Just a conservative who does not let political ideology get in my way of knowing what is right and wrong.
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Terrorists to us are those who wish to Terrify US.
    Why would someone wish to terrify, or cause a terrifying reaction, from us?
    Because American foreign policy.
    Let me break this down. If it wasn't for the habitual sodomizing of the term "terrorism" then there would be "no terrorists" just militants who have a different world-view then us.

    Tell me. You take all of those resurfaced detainees and you kill them all, what did you accomplish?
    Let me give you a hint. Not a damn thing. Infact, you probably created more who favor that ideology then you took away from. WE ARE NOT FIGHTING PEOPLE WE ARE FIGHTING AN IDEOLOGY. AND YOU CANNOT KILL AN IDEOLOGY WITH GUNS.

    FFS learn something.
    Nonsense. Focus on the semantics and ignore the real threat at your peril. You can't kill an ideology with guns, that's true, but you can sure kill the adherents to that ideology. With guns, even!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    No, most certainly not. Just a conservative who does not let political ideology get in my way of knowing what is right and wrong.
    Nevertheless, hopefully you feel that your ideology is right.
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    Nonsense. Focus on the semantics and ignore the real threat at your peril. You can't kill an ideology with guns, that's true, but you can sure kill the adherents to that ideology. With guns, even!
    Not killing someone doesn't mean that you are ignoring the threat.
    Police officers don't use rubber bullets because they want to keep the threat as alive as possible, they use rubber bullets to not kill the threat (no, I am not suggesting using rubber bullets on Bin Laden, even though it would be funny).

    You can't kill an ideology with guns. You said it yourself, then what's the point of mowing down people, and killing innocents in the mean-time, to not kill the ideology (infact it appears as this whole mowing thing increases membership to the ideology).
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    Not killing someone doesn't mean that you are ignoring the threat.
    Police officers don't use rubber bullets because they want to keep the threat as alive as possible, they use rubber bullets to not kill the threat (no, I am not suggesting using rubber bullets on Bin Laden, even though it would be funny).

    You can't kill an ideology with guns. You said it yourself, then what's the point of mowing down people, and killing innocents in the mean-time, to not kill the ideology (infact it appears as this whole mowing thing increases membership to the ideology).
    You're not listening. You kill the people following the ideology until they no longer want to do harm to you. If us defending ourselves gets more of them out of the house and committing to their messed up ideology, and in the line of fire, then that's a good thing. That will save the next generation from having to deal with them.
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    You're not listening. You kill the people following the ideology until they no longer want to do harm to you. If us defending ourselves gets more of them out of the house and committing to their messed up ideology, and in the line of fire, then that's a good thing. That will save the next generation from having to deal with them.
    If this is the smart thing to do. To go over there and shoot them up, then why the hell are we not safer?
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    Re: Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Nevertheless, hopefully you feel that your ideology is right.
    I do, but my ideology is eclectic. I consider myself conservative, but in some areas, I define it a little differently than others.

    I am more ecologically conservative, for example, than many other conservatives are. I also believe that a respect for "law and order" does include respect for the international committments the US makes as well as international law.
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