Like Freedom. Freedom of Religion. Freedom of choice. Freedom of <insert here a freedom western culture allows that Islamo-fascist don't>.
So we can fight them with guns, and kick the CRAP out of them.
We can send them flowers and tell them to like us.
We can convert to their brand of Islam and have them love us.
I have a feeling you'd send flowers then opt to convert rather then fight.
Also it seems to me, that you are willing to give a child rapist, a mass murder and other criminals far more legal rights and access to the legal system, than you are a bunch of men that you have only the word of a fascist Bush administration that they are "dangerous"..
Fact is that out of the 500+ men and boys held at gitmo (yes there have been children held there and still are), a majority, yes a majority have been released, without charge but also labelled as innocent of any "terrorist activities". It is funny how this, to a right winger, who supposedly is the staunch defender of the rule of law and the ideals of the USA, suddenly totally ignores these facts.
Yes there are bad men at Gitmo, but if the US has proof that they are bad.. put them on trial.
If you believe in the principles of the USA, then you should never ever accept that your government hold people of any nationality, in prison without charge, without any legal access or any access at all for long periods of time, and let alone let them be tortured by your own government. You should be up in arms defending the very principles that your troops, your father, grandfather and others died defending in WW2 and other wars.. and yet you are not only silent, but actually supportive of such fascist acts by your own government.
As for this guy. This happens in a world where we believe in the principle of the rule of law. Murders do get off free because we can not prove they did it. It is the price we have to pay for not having a dictatorship that locks up undesirables in gulags for most of their lives. It is the price of freedom and the difference between us and them..
Also Laila is absolutely correct. He could very well have been turned to a life of terror in Gitmo, because he was abused and now wants revenge against those that abused him. I am not saying that it is the truth, but I can also not claim that it is rubbish.. you and I have no idea what is going on in this man's mind after being held at Gitmo.
Yes the US is at war with this mythical no discript thing called terror.. but where is the limit of what terror is and what you can do to not only prevent terror but punish those that are suspected of this terror. Do you give up the very principles that so cherish because of fear? This is what the US has done.. today a woman slapping her own children on an air plane can be charged and convicted of terror... is that right? Is that what the US has come too? A person robbing a bank.. is he now a terrorist and can be held under terror laws? A person smuggling drugs.. is she a terrorist and be held under terror laws? Where do you stop?
I love how the usual suspects blame the US for making this guy a terrorist.
And we aren't suppsed to mention "terrorist sympathizers" here, yet we have people doing just this, giving every benefit of the doubt to these savages, so far as to going all the way in blaming the US for turning this guy into a terrorist.
Matthew 10:34Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Damn Vich, why didn't you put this thread in the Terror forum?
"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
The Geneva Conventions do not apply to terrorists, and enemies captured during war are not tried until the war is over.
They don't get to go through our courts.
They rot in hell until the war is won. Of course our version of hell lets them pray 5-times a day and serves them food that fits their religious beliefs.
Our military does a good enough job sorting through the mess. You may not trust them, but I do. They have no reason to keep non-terrorists. For what? Play toys?
I AM DEPLORABLE.
NEVER CRIMINAL HILLARY (S-NY)
Orwell argued in "Politics and the English language" that one of the biggest problems facing modernity is the usage of words to either intensify or chill the problem for political agenda. Al Quedia calls us Infidels and we call them Terrorists.
"I do not underestimate the ability of fanatical groups of terrorists to kill and destroy, but they do not threaten the life of the nation. Whether we would survive Hitler hung in the balance, but there is no doubt that we shall survive al-Qa'ida." -- Lord Hoffmann