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    Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Its a new day in America...and what a refreshing change of pace:

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    Finally a President who will return integrity to the Country.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its a new day in America...and what a refreshing change of pace:

    Yahoo!



    Finally a President who will return integrity to the Country.
    INTRODUCING...
    The Department of Feathers and Bubbles.
    Dept. Motto: curia advisari vult (The court wishes to be advised)

    And what happens when we catch Osama?
    Or another individual who may have info about a terrorist attack that will kill thousands?

    I guess we can fall back on the Clinton created tool... Rendition.

    Or we'll just send Obama and Biden in their to talk their ears off.
    Maybe we could send Hillary in a Phyllis Diller outfit with bubbles and feathers... then again that's probably too harsh and would fall under torture.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    INTRODUCING...
    The Department of Feathers and Bubbles.
    Dept. Motto: curia advisari vult (The court wishes to be advised)

    And what happens when we catch Osama?
    Or another individual who may have info about a terrorist attack that will kill thousands?

    I guess we can fall back on the Clinton created tool... Rendition.

    Or we'll just send Obama and Biden in their to talk their ears off.
    Maybe we could send Hillary in a Phyllis Diller outfit with bubbles and feathers... then again that's probably too harsh and would fall under torture.
    Torture does nothing but force the torturee to tell the torturer what they want to hear. Even if it is false.
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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Torture does nothing but force the torturee to tell the torturer what they want to hear. Even if it is false.
    Not true.
    And absurd to say torture does not produce results.

    One captain fired a round near the ear of a captured terrorist in Iraq a few years ago, and what did the terrorist do? Gave info that saved American GI's lives.

    Remember that?
    Then they sought to charge the Captain with criminal conduct.
    The result: American GI's will die because they cannot extract critical info in the field... on the spot that will save lives for fear of prosecution... in our courts.

    I wouldn't call waterboarding torture, but I'm certain you would.
    Waterboarding works.

    ROSS: That has happened in some cases where the material that's been given has not been accurate, has been essentially to stop the torture. In the case of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the information was very valuable, particularly names and addresses of people who were involved with al Qaeda in this country and in Europe. And in one particular plot, which would involve an airline attack on the tallest building in Los Angeles, known as the Library Tower.
    Waterboarding Success Stories: Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Library Tower | waterboarding.org
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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Zimmer, may I respectfully suggest that you simulate water boarding on yourself and then see if you agree with your ridiculous statement.

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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Zimmer, may I respectfully suggest that you simulate water boarding on yourself and then see if you agree with your ridiculous statement.
    And what will this accomplish?

    What is ridiculous is the belief torture does not work. It's actually bizarre. It's denying reality, which is what much of the left does on a consistent basis, and what makes you people dangerous.

    It's the same ridiculousness that is embraced in the notion that the death penalty is not a deterrent, or taking guns from law abiding citizens will make society safer.
    Last edited by zimmer; 01-23-09 at 03:01 AM.
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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Not true.
    And absurd to say torture does not produce results.

    One captain fired a round near the ear of a captured terrorist in Iraq a few years ago, and what did the terrorist do? Gave info that saved American GI's lives.

    Remember that?
    Then they sought to charge the Captain with criminal conduct.
    The result: American GI's will die because they cannot extract critical info in the field... on the spot that will save lives for fear of prosecution... in our courts.

    I wouldn't call waterboarding torture, but I'm certain you would.
    Waterboarding works.


    Waterboarding Success Stories: Khalid Shaikh Mohammedhttp://www.debatepolitics.com/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=1057896242 and Library Tower | waterboarding.org
    Waterboarding.org as proof that Waterboarding works.

    Up next.

    Marlboro.com as proof that smoking does not cause cancer.

    And after that...

    NAMBLA.com as proof that touching children sexually is not pedophilia.

    Oh man thought of a really good one ..

    Revisionist.com as proof that the Holocaust did not happen.
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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Waterboarding.org as proof that Waterboarding works.

    Up next.

    Marlboro.com as proof that smoking does not cause cancer.

    And after that...

    NAMBLA.com as proof that touching children sexually is NOT pedophilia.
    This is the typical Lib response too.

    If you had noticed the opening paragraph, it cites an ABC reporter. Not good enough for you?

    My guess is you didn't get that far.

    TILT!

    Try again.
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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    And what will this accomplish?

    What is ridiculous is the belief torture does not work. It's actually bizarre. It's denying reality, which is what much of the left does on a consistent basis, and what makes you people dangerous.

    It's the same ridiculousness that is embraced in the notion that the death penalty is not a deterrent, or taking guns from law abiding citizens will make society safer.

    There is almost infinite examples in all of human history that torture does not work.

    What about all those people in the Dark ages who were tortured and confessed that they were witches? Do you believe in witches. What about all those Jews to confess that they started the Black Death that wiped out most of Europe? Do you believe that Jews caused the bubonic plague??

    What a dishonest person you are or at least ignorant of history.
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    Re: Obama - U.S. will not torture

    I don't think torture works or doesn't work. Clearly it can make people admit things that are true and not true. The problem is knowing the difference.

    I welcome this development. I believe that one should always fight with chivalry and as a Gentlemen and torture violates that in my mind.
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