Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 41

Thread: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

  1. #21
    Human 2.0
    Maximus Zeebra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Western Europe
    Last Seen
    09-07-17 @ 10:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    6,568

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    That's why he hired all Clinton retreads. Puullease.
    Having Hillary Clinton as part of his government seriously bumped the image of Obama, I think in most circles, except the super conservative, Islam paranoids, fear spreaders.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

  2. #22
    Human 2.0
    Maximus Zeebra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Western Europe
    Last Seen
    09-07-17 @ 10:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    6,568

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The government is never, under any circumstance, to be trusted.
    Ofcourse not.. I never claimed that.. But I am all for more openness and transparency.. Actually I am pretty extreme in this way about politics, I want independent committees of people who work for the people to surveillance politics and politicians 24/7, I want complete transparency, no parties and super accountability.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

  3. #23
    Professor

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Last Seen
    02-13-09 @ 05:15 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,942

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Having Hillary Clinton as part of his government seriously bumped the image of Obama, I think in most circles,...
    Why? What foreign policy chops does Hillary possess that substantially changed the perception of Obama who was already viewed extremely favorably?

  4. #24
    Human 2.0
    Maximus Zeebra's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Western Europe
    Last Seen
    09-07-17 @ 10:19 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    6,568

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    He wasn't exactly open and transparent during the election, so why would the leopard change its spots?
    Actually I consider Obama kind of a flip flopper.. He has changed a lot of his stands the last year for example. I hope he goes back to what he first was.. That he finds his roots.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

  5. #25
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    04-23-17 @ 05:59 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    15,429
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Actually I consider Obama kind of a flip flopper.. He has changed a lot of his stands the last year for example. I hope he goes back to what he first was.. That he finds his roots.
    I think Obama's roots are that of his beginnings as an attorney. Meaning he is probably going to shift his "colors" to represent his client. At first it was just the anti-war crowd, then it was just the democrats, then it was moderates as he drew nearer the election, and now as President, he is going to attempt to represent his client which is the American people. I personally hope he holds up to his promise of "not apologizing for our way of life", that he put forth in his inaugural address.
    "Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis

  6. #26
    Professor

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Last Seen
    02-13-09 @ 05:15 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,942

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    I think Obama's roots are that of his beginnings as an attorney. Meaning he is probably going to shift his "colors" to represent his client. At first it was just the anti-war crowd, then it was just the democrats, then it was moderates as he drew nearer the election, and now as President, he is going to attempt to represent his client which is the American people. I personally hope he holds up to his promise of "not apologizing for our way of life", that he put forth in his inaugural address.

    LMAO!!!

    His roots are social activism. He is a liberal. He has never demonstrated any openness to ideologically different ideas.

    Period.

  7. #27
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    The Beautiful Yadkin Valley
    Last Seen
    09-26-10 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,219

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    I wonder when this promise will expire?

    During the campaign we saw all sorts of important promises that ultimately expired when they became politically problemmatic, e.g., NAFTA, FISA and telco immunity, immediate withdrawal from Iraq, immediate closing of Gitmo, public financing, etc., etc., etc.
    Expired today; put off by at least one year.

  8. #28
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    The Beautiful Yadkin Valley
    Last Seen
    09-26-10 @ 08:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    2,219

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Having Hillary Clinton as part of his government seriously bumped the image of Obama, I think in most circles, except the super conservative, Islam paranoids, fear spreaders.
    That's true as no one is dumb enough to want to piss her off.

  9. #29
    Sage

    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    04-23-17 @ 05:59 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    15,429
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    LMAO!!!

    His roots are social activism. He is a liberal. He has never demonstrated any openness to ideologically different ideas.

    Period.
    I believe that at the heart of this man, is simply a populist. Meaning he is going to do and say what he thinks the majority of the population wants to hear or see done. I don't care for populism myself, as ruling accoring to opinion polls is folly to me. But thats how I see him. He is going to do and say things he thinks represents the United States.

    That is until he gives a speech overseas
    "Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis

  10. #30
    Professor

    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Last Seen
    02-13-09 @ 05:15 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    1,942

    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Expired today; put off by at least one year.
    Shoot, that Gitmo promise had expired back in November when Obama and his team acknowledged the difficulty in closing the detention center there. yesterday just formalized the extension of a Bush policy that Obama expressed contempt for and that the Democrats rallied around as a core political issue.

    All of Obama's promises come with an expiration date...all of them.

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •