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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    not enough. Federal funding, of course that should be open. That's my money they're spending. It's a token jester, not enough.
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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    But Obama is talking about taking it MUCH further. Lets hope that becomes reality. That people once again can trust governments.
    The government is never, under any circumstance, to be trusted.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Sometimes I wonder if there's a reason many presidents change their tune when they get to the white house. He pledges an 'era of openness' now but he has yet to be briefed to the full extent as president. I can only imagine the knowledge the president is privy to that many others are not.

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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if there's a reason many presidents change their tune when they get to the white house. He pledges an 'era of openness' now but he has yet to be briefed to the full extent as president. I can only imagine the knowledge the president is privy to that many others are not.
    Are you purposely misconstruing the intent. You're going to imply that a policy of openness mean divulging secrets? I question the openness, but it's obvious what is meant.
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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Are you purposely misconstruing the intent. You're going to imply that a policy of openness mean divulging secrets? I question the openness, but it's obvious what is meant.
    Not necessarily the secrets, but its far easier to say the government will be more open than it is to actually make it so. He could get in office and they would tell him it'll cost 10 billion dollars to do what he's asking. I didn't mean to misconstrue the intent, just wondering out loud.

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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Wait...I'm confused, I was told by Obama supporters and Obama that McCain would just be more of the same 8 years of a secretive government, yet McCain was part of the legislature that is being used to prove that Obama is going to be open and transparent?

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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    I wonder when this promise will expire?

    During the campaign we saw all sorts of important promises that ultimately expired when they became politically problemmatic, e.g., NAFTA, FISA and telco immunity, immediate withdrawal from Iraq, immediate closing of Gitmo, public financing, etc., etc., etc.

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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    BBC NEWS | Americas | Obama inauguration | Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Watch the video.. fabulous.

    Cheers.. Good news on the first day!
    He wasn't exactly open and transparent during the election, so why would the leopard change its spots?
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    He wasn't exactly open and transparent during the election, so why would the leopard change its spots?
    Oh, come one...what do you mean? Obama pledged not to play the same Washington game with the same Washington players. And look at his nominations, so far:

    Rahm;
    Daschle;
    Holder;
    Susan Rice;
    Hillary....

    Ooooops, that's not going so well, either, eh?

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    Re: Obama pledges 'era of openness'

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    He wasn't exactly open and transparent during the election, so why would the leopard change its spots?
    He's a politician, on top of that he's from Chicago. Seriously, how long is it going to take for people to understand you can't trust the man? He'll say whatever he wants to get whatever he wants; anyone whom is a liability to him will be thrown under the bus. Remember when Obama said that he'd no sooner disown Rev. Wright than he would his own grandmother? What happened? Wright wouldn't shut his mouth, kept proving a thorn in Obama's side. Then right overboard he went, Obama ditched him. Just like any politician, he's untrustworthy. Trust in the government is not a wise thing, trust in a Chicago politician is worthy of being committed to an insane asylum.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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