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    EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

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    The leaders of Russia and Ukraine are less trustworthy than some African countries
    Now thats a relief...
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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Nor can it ever trust Russia.

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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
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    Now thats a relief...
    Definately true about Russia. I am reserving judgment on Ukraine.
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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Definately true about Russia. I am reserving judgment on Ukraine.
    I hope for the sake of Ukraine that we will forgive them.. If there is one nation I am glad will be in the EU and look forward to its Ukraine. Its a damn strong nation, with massive potential that will be fulfilled when they join us. It can become one of the strongest nations in Europe just a few decades after it joins us.
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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Nor can it ever trust Russia.
    In the best case scenario.

    In the worst case scenario Russia will not ever trust IT.
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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I hope for the sake of Ukraine that we will forgive them.. If there is one nation I am glad will be in the EU and look forward to its Ukraine. Its a damn strong nation, with massive potential that will be fulfilled when they join us. It can become one of the strongest nations in Europe just a few decades after it joins us.
    Nation of Unkraine speaks, understand, talks and walks Russian, you don't.

    Russia scores again. It does not care that you don't trust Russia. For Russia - it is given. Now the EU says it does not trust Russia AND Ukraine. Russia scores again. It gets Ukraine on its side.

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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Nation of Unkraine speaks, understand, talks and walks Russian, you don't.

    Russia scores again. It does not care that you don't trust Russia. For Russia - it is given. Now the EU says it does not trust Russia AND Ukraine. Russia scores again. It gets Ukraine on its side.
    Except that Ukraine is far more open than Russia is and will be able to get back in the good graces of the West. Russia is a dictatorship whose way of doing things is not acceptable to most people in the West as well as their governments. The only weapon Russia has over Western Europe is its massive gas reserves. Once the West gets off of its fossil fuel habit, it will be nearly as impotant as the Arab States will be once that happens. Ukraine, on the other hand, has a far brighter long-term future than Russia has as its resources will be valuable far into the future.
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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I hope for the sake of Ukraine that we will forgive them.. If there is one nation I am glad will be in the EU and look forward to its Ukraine. Its a damn strong nation, with massive potential that will be fulfilled when they join us. It can become one of the strongest nations in Europe just a few decades after it joins us.
    France won't allow this. With decades of seeking ways to be equal to America on the world stage by undermining efforts and being a general pain nin the ass...you think France will welcome Ukraine as the strongest power in Europe? No way.

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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Except that Ukraine is far more open than Russia is and will be able to get back in the good graces of the West. Russia is a dictatorship whose way of doing things is not acceptable to most people in the West as well as their governments. The only weapon Russia has over Western Europe is its massive gas reserves.
    Their gas is not really a weapons against us as long as we comprise of 60% of all their trade and they only 5% of ours.

    I am certain that Ukraine will be welcomed back in the good company shortly.. It just needs to be punished for a little while, just to feel the whip.
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    Re: EU cannot trust Russia or Ukraine, Barroso says

    Quote Originally Posted by GySgt View Post
    France won't allow this. With decades of seeking ways to be equal to America on the world stage by undermining efforts and being a general pain nin the ass...you think France will welcome Ukraine as the strongest power in Europe? No way.
    Well.. Its not about that. Ukraine will eventually join the European union. Thats a certainty. Once it does there is nothing France can do. I am certain that in 2050 the only country in Europe that will be stronger than Ukraine is Germany.
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