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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Hmm. in context with the thread, that is precisly what you asked. Danny answered you, you then widened the goal post.
    How STUPID of us to answer the question within the context of the topic.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    People who have nothing to provide to the debate try to be relevant by using irrelevant one liners. Ooops.


    Okay two liner.
    Oh I see you're straining yourself to stay on topic. You were complaining about Rev not answering your irrelevent question. Carry on.
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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The point of Hautey's entire appearance here is her opposition of the death penalty. All other factors here are subservient to that.

    No, it -doesn't- matter what someone has done - no crime by no person ever warrants execution.
    Actually, I think Hatuey's objection is based, not on whether or not he supports the death penalty, but because of an honest disagreement with me over what I consider to be an issue of sovereignty.

    Here is the way I see this - When the POS was arrested, the Mexican consulate was not notified, due to an administrative error. However, is that error great enough to prevent the wheels of justice from grinding this POS into pulp? Hell no. Texas has a right to deal with criminals within its borders as it sees fit, so long as the punishment is not cruel and unusual. Actually, for me, that really sucks, because I would prefer that the POS gets raped to death as his sentence, but the law is the law. I am talking about Texas law, of course, not UN rules. Of course, the procedure would be to let the consulates know if their citizens are arrested on US soil, but if a mistake happens, and they are not notified, justice should still be carried out. Like I said, the man raped and murdered 2 little girls. Justice prevailed, not administrative error.

    BTW - The Supreme Court held that the execution was legal, so stick that in your crack pipe and smoke it, UN.
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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, I think Hatuey's objection is based, not on whether or not he supports the death penalty, but because of an honest disagreement with me over what I consider to be an issue of sovereignty.
    Yes, that could be.

    BTW - The Supreme Court held that the execution was legal, so stick that in your crack pipe and smoke it, UN.
    Careful -- next time, the UN might send French troops to halt the execution.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    The UN has no authority over the US.
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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    The United Nations should stay out of this. The crime occurred on Texas soil and is the responsibility of Texas to deal with. If foreign people are not expected to obey the laws of the land, or face the appropriate consequences, then what is to stop them from committing crimes in that land?

    We cannot be certain that Mexico would have dealt with this appropriately, and lets keep in mind that it occurred on Texas soil and the victims were Texans. The victim's families and friends deserved to know justice was carried out in a manner that will help them get passed this trauma. Can we really be sure that this would have happened in Mexico?

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    I am very happy they are dead. It makes me feels like two warts have been burned off the butt of humanity.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The UN has no authority over the US.
    That is a one-liner that I agree with.
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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by U.S. Constitution, Article VI
    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
    When we signed the UN treaties, we gave the UN authority over the U.S. We are obligated to abide by the UN treaties we signed, just as we are obligated to abide by the Constitution itself. They are legally equal.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    When we signed the UN treaties, we gave the UN authority over the U.S. We are obligated to abide by the UN treaties we signed, just as we are obligated to abide by the Constitution itself. They are legally equal.
    I have no problem with that. However, the UN does not have the right to demand that we stop the wheels of justice in order to correct an administrative error.
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