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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And again, Congress did NOT ratify the treaty, so it was not in effect. This has already been vetted by the Supreme Court itself. That scum should not get more rights than the American scum who also were in on the act.



    If it was not ratified, there is no treaty.


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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Enforce it.


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    U.N. Fail seems to be a pretty constant trend to me.
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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    First, the Law of Treaties specifically states it can't be applied to treaties that pre-date it, as the Vienna Convention does.

    Second, the U.S. is obligated to abide by customary international law if it has shown by its own actions that it accepts its provisions, even if it were not a party to the convention, which it clearly is.
    If the US withdraws from a treaty, and/or the US did not ratify a treaty, then the US is nout bound by that treaty. Period.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    According to international treaty law, is a state signs and ratifies a treaty or acceeds to an international convention, it is bound by the provisions of that document.

    Furthermore, even if the state HASN'T acceeded to that document, if it becomes considered customary international law and the state in question did not show through its words and/or deeds that it did NOT accept this development, it is still bound by this as international law in accordance with the ICJ Statute and the history of customary international law.
    Please show us what specific law we are violating, with a link. Please show us where it states we are obligated to adhere to ICJ Statutes, with a link.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica View Post
    They make their own rules in Texas. That goes with the saying "don't mess with Texas". Bush is from Texas.
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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Furthermore, even if the state HASN'T acceeded to that document, if it becomes considered customary international law and the state in question did not show through its words and/or deeds that it did NOT accept this development, it is still bound by this as international law in accordance with the ICJ Statute and the history of customary international law.
    This 'customary international law' does not carry the same force as a ratified treaty, and therefore does not have equal footing with the US Constitution.

    Therefore, it does not superceede state laws and/or Constitutions.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

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    Yes the Jessica has not exactly earned a reputation as "thoughtful" since her arrival at DP. Rather the opposite.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    As it has been shown numerous times, you are wrong. The US opted out of the "Vienna Convention on Consular Relations."

    You have no leg to stand on.
    The US withdrew from the Optional Protocol, NOT the Vienna Convention. Please learn to read.

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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    But when you adhere to an international convention, you have to follow those rules as well. The US expects other countries to abide by the rules of the Consular Convention, the US needs to abide by it as well.
    Anyone that pays attention to foreign relations in this country knows that the UN issue any resolution they want at us and we will give them the finger. The UN holds no authority over the United States.
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    Re: US breached order by executing Mexican: UN court

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The US withdrew from the Optional Protocol, NOT the Vienna Convention. Please learn to read.

    I am about to go on vacation. I will address other points as time permits - or more likely in four days when I return from Kenting.
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