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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

    My personal belief is that the dealer was here illegally. (1st law broken)
    and he was involved with drugs (2nd law broken)
    His injuries would not have occured had he not broken the law in the first place.
    As such the officer shouldn't be held accountable.
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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I agree, I am still very disappointed that Bush didn't have the courage to PARDON these two men for doing their job. It is still an injustice that they now have a criminal record in my opinion.
    I couldn't agree with you more.
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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    My personal belief is that the dealer was here illegally. (1st law broken)
    and he was involved with drugs (2nd law broken)
    His injuries would not have occured had he not broken the law in the first place.
    As such the officer shouldn't be held accountable.
    Didn't your mother ever teach you...."Two wrongs don't make a right".

    By your rationale, the police don't have to follow their job description nor the laws of this land as long as they are pursuing another person who broke the law.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Didn't your mother ever teach you...."Two wrongs don't make a right".

    By your rationale, the police don't have to follow their job description nor the laws of this land as long as they are pursuing another person who broke the law.
    Not exactly. The question is; Are the initial criminal actions of the 1st party (the dealer) place the person in a situation that led to the shooting?
    In this case the answer is Yes. Had he not been here illegally, he would not have been shot.
    In many countries if someone hits you in a car accident and they are there illegally, tough ****, and they pay for your car because their illegal action (being there) caused the accident.
    I have seen cases here where people were drinking and driving and got hit and were held responsible for the accident. They shouldn't have been behind the wheel to start with.
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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Didn't your mother ever teach you...."Two wrongs don't make a right".
    I don't particularly see a drug dealer getting shot in the rear during the commission of two criminal acts as that big a wrong. Sorry.

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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't particularly see a drug dealer getting shot in the rear during the commission of two criminal acts as that big a wrong. Sorry.
    I guess that's the problem and where we will never see eye to eye.

    To me the actions of one party can never justify the actions of the other when they are both wrong.

    Wrong is wrong....it doesn't matter whether you carry a badge or whether you carry drugs. Laws were broken by both and I will never understand how anyone can justify their actions let alone idolize them as they are some kind of hero.
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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

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    This gives me a big time Space Invaders flashback.


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    Re: Bush commutes sentences of former border patrol agents

    If I am not mistaken a commutation of sentence will allow for an opportunity for appeal. This will allow Ramos and Compean to clear there name. If Bush would have pardoned them they would not be afforded this opportunity.
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