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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

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    That argument doesn't follow that they are free. The Roman times weren't free either. State conquests to bring in huge sums of gold to the internal market is hardly 'free.'

    The only "free market" we've seen occurs in anarchy and quickly disappears.
    The same happens today.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    The same happens today.
    Not really. Name me a country that's economy is based on invading another and taking all their stuff.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Not really. Name me a country that's economy is based on invading another and taking all their stuff.
    The US of A.. Their military budget and defense expenditures are getting close to 1 trillion a year. The US cannot make it without such a big military, their economy is to dependent on it, and for it to continue to be so big the US have to fight some wars or some silly "wars on terrorism" and something to have the military be active, or else there is no justification to keep spending that amount of money on it, while the rest of the US is falling apart.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    The US of A.. Their military budget and defense expenditures are getting close to 1 trillion a year. The US cannot make it without such a big military, their economy is to dependent on it, and for it to continue to be so big the US have to fight some wars or some silly "wars on terrorism" and something to have the military be active, or else there is no justification to keep spending that amount of money on it, while the rest of the US is falling apart.
    LOL. US military expenditures at most are around $650 billion. That's not a trillion dollars. Furthermore, the total US economy is $13 trillion. Explain to me how a $13 trillion economy can't exist without $650 billion in military expenditures. That would require a 20x multiplier. Really.

    Furthermore the military does not go out invade someone and take all their stuff.

    Try again.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    LOL. US military expenditures at most are around $650 billion. That's not a trillion dollars. Furthermore, the total US economy is $13 trillion. Explain to me how a $13 trillion economy can't exist without $650 billion in military expenditures. That would require a 20x multiplier. Really.

    Furthermore the military does not go out invade someone and take all their stuff.

    Try again.
    If you add veterans cost, homeland security, the war on terror, Iraq and Afghanistan costs, the military and defense related spendings are very close to 1 trillion EVERY year.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    If you add veterans cost, homeland security, the war on terror, Iraq and Afghanistan costs, the military and defense related spendings are very close to 1 trillion EVERY year.
    Every year? Really, want to go back 5 even 8 years? How about during Clinton's time where he kept up the military reduction that HW and Reagan started? The economy was dependent upon that?

    LOL.

    Furthermore the military does not go out invade someone and take all their stuff.

    Try again.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Every year? Really, want to go back 5 even 8 years? How about during Clinton's time where he kept up the military reduction that HW and Reagan started? The economy was dependent upon that?

    LOL.

    Furthermore the military does not go out invade someone and take all their stuff.

    Try again.
    What about Iraq? You control their oil..

    Anyways. 13 trillion dollar economy isnt a 13 trillion dollar tax revenue, the US federal tax income is around 2.5 trillion.. Spending 1 trillion of that on the military, I would say its something that you can hardly afford when you run federal government deficits of 500 billion or more every year and 250 billion of those are interest rates on the federal budget debt of over 10 trillion.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    What about Iraq? You control their oil.
    Since when?

    Iraq is in control of its own oil. They get the oil money. They spend it.

    Anyways. 13 trillion dollar economy isnt a 13 trillion dollar tax revenue, the US federal tax income is around 2.5 trillion.. Spending 1 trillion of that on the military, I would say its something that you can hardly afford when you run federal government deficits of 500 billion or more every year and 250 billion of those are interest rates on the federal budget debt of over 10 trillion.
    Way to change the subject. I agree that we can't afford to spend like that. Reagan, HW and Clinton all recognized that and started military cutting.

    But you have yet to prove that the US economy is reliant upon military spending especially given the past two decades where it has been a small part of the overall economy.

    Plus the military do what you claim it does.
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    Re: Poll confirms US image problem ahead of Obama debut

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Since when?

    Iraq is in control of its own oil. They get the oil money. They spend it.
    You sure about that?


    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Way to change the subject. I agree that we can't afford to spend like that. Reagan, HW and Clinton all recognized that and started military cutting.

    But you have yet to prove that the US economy is reliant upon military spending especially given the past two decades where it has been a small part of the overall economy.

    Plus the military do what you claim it does.
    Really? Only Clinton cut military spending of the 3, Reagan was a military maniac, and had about the same policies as GWB, cut taxes and increase spending, especially military related ones.
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