Obama Reaches Out for McCain’s Counsel

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 18, 2009

Obama Reaches Out for McCain’s Counsel

Mr. McCain, meanwhile, has told colleagues “that many of these appointments he would have made himself,” said Senator Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican and a close McCain friend.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/us/politics/19mccain.html?_r=2&ref=politics

so those of you who voted McCain, any sour taste in your mouth yet? :lol:

This is why Obama won, McCain was nothing more than a kissass to the opposition.....

Kandahar · Jan 19, 2009

God forbid that our elected officials work in a bipartisan manner to actually get things done.

Middleground · Jan 19, 2009

Kandahar said:
God forbid that our elected officials work in a bipartisan manner to actually get things done.

That was my exact sentiment. Bush did nothing but polarize not only the parties, but also the American people.

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 19, 2009

Meh, if I wanted Obama could have voted McCain and got the same thing.

This is why he lost. Just as big government as Obama....

Hatuey · Jan 19, 2009

I wonder :

If Obama had actually said the opposite and said 'I won't work with McCain or the Republicans, would the Reverend come on DP and say something along the lines of :

'Is this the change you wanted?'

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 19, 2009

Hatuey said:
I wonder :

If Obama had actually said the opposite and said 'I won't work with McCain or the Republicans, would the Reverend come on DP and say something along the lines of :

'Is this the change you wanted?'

Nope. I wouldn't. I know he is a liberal, and I expect him to do his liberal thing. If he said he wouldn't work with McCain, I would be more than fine with it.

Sorry. :2wave:

Hatuey · Jan 19, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Meh, if I wanted Obama could have voted McCain and got the same thing.

This is why he lost. Just as big government as Obama....

Or it could be that Obama actually ran a better campaign then McCain on every front.

zimmer · Jan 19, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
so those of you who voted McCain, any sour taste in your mouth yet? :lol:

This is why Obama won, McCain was nothing more than a kissass to the opposition.....

McCain by his own admission on winning the nomination of the Republican party thanked "open minded democrats".

It's no surprise to see one Liberal reaching out to another.

Hey Middleground:

I find it funny that the Libs lose control of Congress for the first time in 40-years... and then the political process since then has never been more "polarized".

LOL... you folks really have to get a grip. Bush got the approval from Congress to take action in Iraq, and then your party goes on the warpath not against our terrorist enemies but Bush and the troops... against their own President during a war, and when times got rough.

These people and their supporters are about as low as the come. They used a war they voted for to gain political points.

But it was Bush that was the one that polarized. I wish he'd been brutal to your side, but he wasn't. He let you folks and your media propagandists smack him at every turn. He should have come out and smacked back, and hard. He should have made the left look like the disgraceful, treasonous bunch of back stabbers they were.

He didn't... but he was the polarizer.
Go figure.:roll:

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 19, 2009

Hatuey said:
Or it could be that Obama actually ran a better campaign then McCain on every front.

Absolutley that is part of it...

McCain sunk it though in that debate where he tried to out Marx Obama with that idiotic nationalizing mortgages plan....

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 19, 2009

Middleground said:
That was my exact sentiment. Bush did nothing but polarize not only the parties, but also the American people.

I think the left had just as much a polarizing effect as anything Bush did. :2wave:

Hatuey · Jan 19, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Absolutley that is part of it...

Actually. That's pretty much the main reason. Obama obliterated the McCain campaign on even Republican strongholds like Florida where the Cuban population makes a difference.

McCain sunk it though in that debate where he tried to out Marx Obama with that idiotic nationalizing mortgages plan....

Yes. We all know the base of the Republican party. Low income rural whites in the Midwest and Southern U.S. aren't looking for a hand now that they are losing their houses at the same rate as liberals in big cities.

zimmer · Jan 19, 2009

Hatuey said:
Or it could be that Obama actually ran a better campaign then McCain on every front.

Well... Obama didn't get much past the Hope and Change bit.

He was never vetted, and McCain never challenged the press to do their job.

Obama still is an unknown to most, but we'll be seeing the costs of not being vetted. Clinton had his scandal a month, and unlike Clinton, Obama has serious challenges... and no experience.

But he's got the numbest mind in the senate at his side... Ol' Joe Biden.

This will be good entertainment watching the Keystone Cops, or Dumb and Dumber try to corral the Clintonistas.

And by the way... did Change mean four years of Clinton retreads?

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 19, 2009

Hatuey said:
Actually. That's pretty much the main reason. Obama obliterated the McCain campaign on even Republican strongholds.

Yes, my bad, obama is the darkness and the light, the alpha and omega, and through him all things are possible....

Though I walk through the valley of evil America, I shall fear no evil, For HE, the one, The Obama, is with me.....

Is that better? :lol:

Yes. We all know the base of the Republican party. Low income rural whites in the Midwest and Southern U.S. aren't looking for a hand now that they are losing their houses at the same rate as liberals in big cities.

Have anything to back this up?

rhinefire · Jan 19, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
so those of you who voted McCain, any sour taste in your mouth yet? :lol:

Ask your question to Monica Lewinski.

This is why Obama won, McCain was nothing more than a kissass to the opposition.....

How much time did you spend in a POW camp and how many prisoners did you insist on going home from that camp turning down the opportunity to go home yourself? Better yet, how much time has Biden (who referred to Obama as "one of the good ones") and your Obama spend in the militar? Was your homie Billy Bob Clinton in the service?

Last Question: How long will your boy Obama remain in Iraq versus how many months he "said" it will be before we are out? I believe he said 16 months at best. Wanna bet on that?

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 19, 2009

rhinefire said:
How much time did you spend in a POW camp and how many prisoners did you insist on going home from that camp turning down the opportunity to go home yourself? Better yet, how much time has Biden (who referred to Obama as "one of the good ones") and your Obama spend in the militar? Was your homie Billy Bob Clinton in the service?

Last Question: How long will your boy Obama remain in Iraq versus how many months he "said" it will be before we are out? I believe he said 16 months at best. Wanna bet on that?

Are you talking to me?

I think you are confusing my distaste for McCain as support for Obama.....

Hi I am the Good Reverend Hellh0und, and I am a Conservative. have we met? :doh:lol:

Lerxst · Jan 19, 2009

zimmer said:
He was never vetted,

Your statement here is ridiculous. He is the most vetted Presdiential candidate in history. For two solid years his life was examined by Republican and Democrat political machine alike. A lot of money was spent digging into every facet of his life, his wives life, and his friends lives. His politics were dissected, his personal relationships, his education, his upbringing, his financial and property records, his health...all of it was picked apart in a desperate attempt to wash him out of the race.

Obama still is an unknown to most,

On the contrary, he is one of the most well publicized Presidential candidates in history. There is a massive amount of information available to the world in both print and online. Books about the details of this mans life were best sellers.

This will be good entertainment watching the Keystone Cops, or Dumb and Dumber try to corral the Clintonistas.

I disagree. After eight years of Bush I think this country will get a much deserved sigh of relief.

And by the way... did Change mean four years of Clinton retreads?

I can only hope. Clinton was a good President and had some good people on his team.

Middleground · Jan 19, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I think the left had just as much a polarizing effect as anything Bush did. :2wave:

"The left."

What in the hell is that, really.

There's no other President that I can remember that polarized the parties and the people more than Bush.

Not Clinton.

Not HW.

Not Reagan.

Not Carter.

Lerxst · Jan 19, 2009

Middleground said:
"The left."

What in the hell is that, really.

There's no other President that I can remember that polarized the parties and the people more than Bush.

Not Clinton.

Not HW.

Not Reagan.

Not Carter.

Agreed. :werd

ReverendHellh0und · Jan 19, 2009

Middleground said:
"The left."

What in the hell is that, really.

There's no other President that I can remember that polarized the parties and the people more than Bush.

Not Clinton.

Not HW.

Not Reagan.

Not Carter.

I was refering to democrats in this instance.

Clinton polarized the hell out of this country.

Thorgasm · Jan 19, 2009

Chubby chasing ruined this country.

Shewter · Jan 19, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
so those of you who voted McCain, any sour taste in your mouth yet? :lol:

This is why Obama won, McCain was nothing more than a kissass to the opposition.....

Are you surprised about this rev?

Didnt he say that he will seek counsel with Sen. McCain before he even won the election?

Hatuey · Jan 19, 2009

Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Yes, my bad, obama is the darkness and the light, the alpha and omega, and through him all things are possible....

Though I walk through the valley of evil America, I shall fear no evil, For HE, the one, The Obama, is with me.....

Is that better? :lol:

So nothing to reply? Noted.

Have anything to back this up?

2006 :

ForeclosureS.com: Foreclosures Swamp the Midwest. | North America > United States from AllBusiness.com

Calif. -- Foreclosures ripped across the nation's heartland in 2006 in the wake of manufacturing layoffs and tough economic times.

The Midwest had 204,656 foreclosure filings in 2006, up more than 70 percent from 2005's 120,298 filings, according to internally compiled numbers

Triple-digit increases in filings hit Iowa and Kansas, while many other states, including Illinois, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska and North Dakota, struggled with increases of 80 to 96 percent.

Nationwide, nearly one million (970,948) foreclosures were filed in 2006, up more than 51 percent from just over 640,000 in 2005, according to ForeclosureS.com numbers.

2007 :

Midwest foreclosure rate leads nation - Business First of Columbus:

The Sacramento, Calif.-based real estate listing service said Monday that Ohio and 10 nearby states had a foreclosure rate at the end of July of 0.54 percent, or 5.4 homes per 1,000, the highest of five regions in the country. That's a 29 percent increase over the foreclosure rate at this point last year of 0.42 percent.

The nationwide foreclosure rate hit 0.37 percent, up 42 percent from 0.26 percent a year ago.

Ohio's foreclosure rate ranks sixth in the nation, which has a 0.67 percent rate. Colorado, Nevada and Michigan tie in leading the nation with a rate of 0.93 percent, meaning foreclosures have hit nearly one out of every 100 homes in those states.

Alexis McGee, president of Foreclosures.com, said in a release that foreclosures aren't just affecting subprime loans.

2008 :

2008 Mortgage Outlook: Delinquencies, Foreclosures, Too Much Invento - GLG News

Another indicator that the housing market downturn isn't over is the decline in new home construction, which was down 14.2% in December 2007 and down 25% in 2007, from 2006, which is the largest amount in 27 years. The delinquency rate on mortgage loans was 5.59% in 3Q07, up from 5.12% in 2Q07, which is the highest level of delinquencies since 1986 and the value of those delinquencies surpassed $200 billion. Housing construction fell by 30.8% in the Midwest and was down 25.8% in the Northeast and 19.6% in the West and the South had the lowest decline at 3.3%.

As far as the Republican base being low income whites :

RealClearPolitics - Articles - The Incredible Shrinking Republican Base

Discussions of the current political situation and comparisons between the 2008 election and earlier contests frequently overlook a crucial fact. As a result of changes in American society, today's electorate is very different from the electorate of twenty, thirty, or forty years ago. Three long-term trends have been especially significant in this regard: increasing racial diversity, declining rates of marriage, and changes in religious beliefs. As a result of these trends, today's voters are less likely to be white, less likely to be married, and less likely to consider themselves Christians than voters of just a few decades ago.

The combined impact of these trends on the composition of the electorate has been dramatic. Married white Christians now make up less than half of all voters in the United States and less than one fifth of voters under the age of 30. The declining proportion of married white Christians in the electorate has important political implications because in recent years married white Christians have been among the most loyal supporters of the Republican Party. In American politics today, whether you are a married white Christian is a much stronger predictor of your political preferences than your gender or your class -- the two demographic characteristics that dominate much of the debate on contemporary American politics.

Ever hear of the Southern Strategy? It's been the Republican M.O. in EVERY election since Nixon.

Southern strategy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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