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    Thumbs down Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

    This thread piggybacks the last two threads that I started:

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    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057890246-post1.html

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    Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

    By WILLIAM GLABERSON - The New York Times
    Published: January 18, 2009

    For nearly six years, Haji Bismullah, an Afghan detainee at Guantánamo Bay, has insisted that he was no terrorist, but had actually fought the Taliban and had later been part of the pro-American Afghan government.

    By reviewing government documents, court records and media reports, The Times was able to compile an approximate list of detainees currently at Guantánamo.

    Over the weekend, the Bush administration flew him home after a military panel concluded that he “should no longer be deemed an enemy combatant.”

    Asked about the panel’s decision, which was not publicly announced and seemed to acknowledge a mistake of grand proportions, a Pentagon spokeswoman said, “Mr. Bismullah was lawfully detained as an enemy combatant based on the information that was available at the time.”

    The decision was part of a pattern that has emerged in the closing chapter of the administration. In the last three months, at least 24 detainees have been declared improperly held by courts or a tribunal — or nearly 10 percent of the population at the detention camp in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, where about 245 men remain.
    This is the point of the story:

    While hundreds of suspects have been released from the detention camp in the seven years it has been operating, the recent decisions came after the Bush administration said it had reduced the population to the most dangerous terrorists.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/wa...9gitmo.html?hp

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    Re: Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

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    This thread piggybacks the last two threads that I started:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057884338-post1.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057890246-post1.html

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    This is the point of the story:


    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/wa...9gitmo.html?hp
    I look forward to hearing how Hussein Obama will have a perfect record of dealing with terrorists during war. Perfect detention record from the Dept. of Bubbles and Feathers. Formerly known as the Dept. of Defense.

    That without risking more dead American warriors and civilians.
    Let's see how fast Hussein Obama closes Gitmo.

    Will it get done by the end of his one-term reign?

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    Re: Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    I look forward to hearing how Hussein Obama will have a perfect record of dealing with terrorists during war. Perfect detention record from the Dept. of Bubbles and Feathers. Formerly known as the Dept. of Defense.

    That without risking more dead American warriors and civilians.
    Let's see how fast Hussein Obama closes Gitmo.

    Will it get done by the end of his one-term reign?
    Not having a perfect record is not illegal nor immoral.

    Purposely going about trying to circumvent laws, domestic and international, most certainly is... both
    Thank You Barack Obama for Restoring Honor To The Presidency.
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    Re: Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Not having a perfect record is not illegal nor immoral.

    Purposely going about trying to circumvent laws, domestic and international, most certainly is... both
    Are you talking about the terrorists that use schools and Mosques as staging points for attacks?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that don't fight wearing uniforms?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that use civilians as shields?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that drag dead bodies through the streets?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that cut off the heads of those they capture? Journalists included?

    I thought so.

    I want you peaceniks to bring court cases by the hundreds against Bush and his administration. Bring it on if what they've done is illegal (it isn't). Just do it. Try to bring justice for your terrorist buddies.

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    Re: Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Are you talking about the terrorists that use schools and Mosques as staging points for attacks?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that don't fight wearing uniforms?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that use civilians as shields?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that drag dead bodies through the streets?

    Are you talking about the terrorists that cut off the heads of those they capture? Journalists included?

    I thought so.

    I want you peaceniks to bring court cases by the hundreds against Bush and his administration. Bring it on if what they've done is illegal (it isn't). Just do it. Try to bring justice for your terrorist buddies.
    It's not about "Are these guys bad guys?". It's about following the law and taking the high road and setting an example to the rest of the world.

    As we have already seen by the recent decision re: not prosecuting a Gitmo prisoner solely because he was tortured, if we don't abide by the law those bad guys won't get prosecuted.

    What's more important to you, beating the snot out of someone because you "think" they're one of the bad guys? Or seeing him lawfully found guilty and sentenced to life in prison, or death?

    Thank God the Neanderthals won't run this country after tomorrow!
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    Re: Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    Purposely going about trying to circumvent laws, domestic and international, most certainly is... both
    Have you switched gears and begun talking about Obama's nominee for Treasury secretary and his blatant exercise in tax evasion?

    Or Charlie Rangel's misuse of government funds?
    The Baltimore Mayor?
    Blago?
    The Detroit mayor?
    Or was it the Dems who illegally dug up the goods on Joe the Plumber?

    Just curious.
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    Re: Rulings of Wrongful Detentions at Guantánamo

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    It's not about "Are these guys bad guys?". It's about following the law and taking the high road and setting an example to the rest of the world.

    As we have already seen by the recent decision re: not prosecuting a Gitmo prisoner solely because he was tortured, if we don't abide by the law those bad guys won't get prosecuted.

    What's more important to you, beating the snot out of someone because you "think" they're one of the bad guys? Or seeing him lawfully found guilty and sentenced to life in prison, or death?

    Thank God the Neanderthals won't run this country after tomorrow!
    Yes, yes.

    The high road as set by the ever forward looking Bill Clinton.
    He bombed an innocent pill factory and a hillside in Afghanistan.
    He set up the program called "Rendition". Sending deep threats to other lands for extreme calisthenics.

    That High road?

    The one that left a million or so dead in Iraq... half being children.
    That high road, the road that was "worth it" and left Saddam Hussein in power... plying and corrupting the UN for billions?

    That High Road?

    The one where he invited a terrorist a record number of times to the White House while the terrorist called for Jihad?

    That High Road?

    OK.

    Yo see, enemy combatants should not be tried anywhere until after the war is over. They don't wear uniforms, they hide among civi's, so they are left to the good graces of our military. That's as it should be when we are at war.

    But no, leftist busy bodies believe we should treat terrorists as legal threats and in our court system.

    Neanderthals? LOL.

    I have a funny feeling you have the same disrespect for our military. Those that will be put at greater risk due to you and the pacifists you run with.
    Last edited by zimmer; 01-19-09 at 02:01 AM.

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