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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by rudedog View Post
    If Israel leaves, then Hamas will be yelling in the streets that they won again,and continue rocket attacks.
    I agree, this actually goes without saying I'd imagine.
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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The casulties is both Hamas and Israel's fault.
    Absolutely.
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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I know hence why i wouldn't be able to be willing
    And hence I would.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    And hence I would.
    Why would you say this? It would make you no better than Hamas.
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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Why would you say this? It would make you no better than Hamas.
    Because he knows he will be safe on the other side of the world.
    Bargaining other peoples lives is much more easier when you know there is no chance of you being amongst the dead

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Why would you say this? It would make you no better than Hamas.
    Not really.
    I understand the concept you may need to take lives in order to say lives.
    I also value the lives of people who demonstrate they wish to live in peace over these who always demonstrate they don't.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Because he knows he will be safe on the other side of the world.
    Bargaining other peoples lives is much more easier when you know there is no chance of you being amongst the dead
    Yes I do live on the other side of the world but that didn't stop me from serving in the ME did it.
    Make no mistake I would take the lives of thousands to save a fraction of that in American lives. I simply apply that to the Israels fight with the Hamas.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    Not really.
    I understand the concept you may need to take lives in order to say lives.
    As do I. I've had to do just that. Apparently the way we have both digested that knowledge has produced differing points of view. There is an extreme difference in engaging your enemy and in deliberately embarking upon an initiative that will kill an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of innocent civilians simply because you are having a hard time finding and fixing your enemy. That is 1940's Axis/1980's Soviet occupation of Afghanistan strategy.

    I also value the lives of people who demonstrate they wish to live in peace over these who always demonstrate they don't.
    You're assuming that all Palestinians in Gaza want war. Which is incorrect. Many Palestinians are very discontented and angry at Israel, but would most likely never fire a shot in anger. Would they protest, burn the Israeli flag, say mean things? Sure. Does that mean they want to wage war and in live in a constant state of siege and despair? Not at all. You don't punish those people, you punish Hamas.
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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Then you have no problem with me saying i'd sacrifice the 17 dead Israelis for the 1,000 Palestinians

    My brother served in ME, can't say i was particularly happy. I'd much rather he quits the army

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    As do I. I've had to do just that. Apparently the way we have both digested that knowledge has produced differing points of view. There is an extreme difference in engaging your enemy and in deliberately embarking upon an initiative that will kill an overwhelmingly disproportionate number of innocent civilians simply because you are having a hard time finding and fixing your enemy. That is 1940's Axis/1980's Soviet occupation of Afghanistan strategy.
    When your enemy hides among civilians you will always have as you put it
    "overwhelmingly disproportionate number of innocent civilians" Its the price you must pay to route them out. Its the price the people pay for allowing this to happen.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    You're assuming that all Palestinians in Gaza want war. Which is incorrect. Many Palestinians are very discontented and angry at Israel, but would most likely never fire a shot in anger. Would they protest, burn the Israeli flag, say mean things? Sure. Does that mean they want to wage war and in live in a constant state of siege and despair? Not at all. You don't punish those people, you punish Hamas.
    And you know as well as I do a group using guerrilla tactics cant operate without the support of the local populace. Whats the percentage of those who don't support the hamas?

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