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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    I think that's an interesting statement. "Exterminate Hamas once and for all."

    How would you propose they do that exactly? Exterminate Hamas? Currently I find that Hamas has no redeeming qualities so I'm not opposed to Hamas going away. But how exactly would Israel go about exterminating them?

    And yes, I'm going somewhere with this.
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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No because the Hamas have already said it wouldn't stop.

    Hamas defiant

    Hamas, however, said it would continue fighting in Gaza as long as Israeli troops remained in the Hamas-ruled Strip.

    "If the Israeli military continues its existence in the Gaza Strip, that is a wide door for the resistance against the occupation forces," Osama Hamdan, a Hamas official in Lebanon told Al Jazeera.

    Fawzi Barhum, a Hamas spokesman, said: "The Zionist enemy must stop all its aggression, completely withdraw from the Gaza Strip, lift the blockade, and open the crossings. We will not accept the presence of a single soldier in Gaza.
    Al Jazeera English - Middle East - Olmert announces Gaza ceasefire

    Even if the hamas do stop and agree to the terms Like in the past the hamas will use any ceasefire to resupply with rockets to be fired into Israel.


    Its the same bullchit...different day.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    I think that's an interesting statement. "Exterminate Hamas once and for all."

    How would you propose they do that exactly? Exterminate Hamas? Currently I find that Hamas has no redeeming qualities so I'm not opposed to Hamas going away. But how exactly would Israel go about exterminating them?

    And yes, I'm going somewhere with this.
    Get rid of all of them? . It could be done.
    But it depends on your willingness to take it to the extremes needed.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    But it depends on your willingness to take it to the extremes needed.
    It depends on if you accept high civilian casulties as a consequence

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It depends on if you accept high civilian casualties as a consequence
    much more then just high.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee View Post
    much more then just high.
    I know hence why i wouldn't be able to be willing

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It depends on if you accept high civilian casulties as a consequence
    Those casualties are the fault of Hamas.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Those casualties are the fault of Hamas.
    The casulties is both Hamas and Israel's fault.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    If Israel leaves, then Hamas will be yelling in the streets that they won again,and continue rocket attacks.

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    Re: Breaking: Israel 'to announce ceasefire'

    At this point, I do not believe declaration of a unilateral ceasefire is a good idea. I believe the ceasefire will take pressure off Hamas at a time when Hamas was visibly starting to weaken. It remains unclear that Hamas will cease its rocket attacks and a low-level of rocket attacks is not consistent with Israel's objective of ending the rocket attacks. In fact, I expect that Hamas will more than likely continue to fire occasional rockets into Israel despite the unilateral Israeli ceasefire.

    With respect to Israel's forces, I agree with the decision to retain a presence in the Gaza Strip until Hamas ceases its rocket attacks and a viable mechanism is in place for stopping the smuggling of weapons to Hamas. Nonetheless, just as I believe the ceasefire is somewhat premature, I am worried that Israel will prematurely withdraw its forces from the Gaza Strip before all rocket fire has ended and before a credible mechanism for stopping the flow of arms into the Gaza Strip is function and is demonstrated to be effective.

    Finally, I am disappointed that Israel did not tie the ceasefire and/or troop withdrawal to Hamas' release of Cpl. Shalit. Israel had an opportunity to use its on-the-ground successes to gain greater leverage in bringing an end to the hostage situation. It passed on that opportunity, even as added leverage could only be helpful.

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