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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    According to the article the girl was an honor student, and had a clean record. But they took the word of someone who was in trouble and stripped search this poor girl even after her backpack had been searched with no evidence in sight. They went beyond what even police can do in the same situation to adults. What more do you want?
    I understand all that. I am unclear on, procedurally, what they are required to do in these situations. Being outraged does not necessarily equal illegality.

    This was a dispicable act. A 13 year old girl should NEVER EVER be strip searched. At least not without the consent of the parents and or police there also. And from what I can tell they didn't even contact the parents, much less the police.
    I do not agree that a 13 year old should never be strip searched. You are speaking in absolutes, and I'm certain there are circumstances that would warrant this kind of search. I am curious as to why her parents were not called and required to be present during the search. This is what I am not certain about...whether, procedurally, the school is required to do this. I'm pretty sure the police are, but I am not sure of the school. Often in these situations, locus parentis (I think that is the legal term) is in place.
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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

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    I understand all that. I am unclear on, procedurally, what they are required to do in these situations. Being outraged does not necessarily equal illegality.
    I'll agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I do not agree that a 13 year old should never be strip searched. You are speaking in absolutes, and I'm certain there are circumstances that would warrant this kind of search. I am curious as to why her parents were not called and required to be present during the search. This is what I am not certain about...whether, procedurally, the school is required to do this. I'm pretty sure the police are, but I am not sure of the school. Often in these situations, locus parentis (I think that is the legal term) is in place.
    If the parents must be called in for the police why wouldn't a school? As parents they have a right to be informed of anything that is to happen to their kids that is out of the ordinary. Parents also have a right to deny it, unless there is a court order. Not even the police can use a strip search on a minor without the parents/guardians consent or a court order. If it's not allowed to our police who's job is to look for crime and look out for the welfare of civilians why would school officials who are civilians beable to do this? Otherwise it's like giving the school a license to step outside of the law.
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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'll agree with this.



    If the parents must be called in for the police why wouldn't a school? As parents they have a right to be informed of anything that is to happen to their kids that is out of the ordinary. Parents also have a right to deny it, unless there is a court order. Not even the police can use a strip search on a minor without the parents/guardians consent or a court order. If it's not allowed to our police who's job is to look for crime and look out for the welfare of civilians why would school officials who are civilians beable to do this? Otherwise it's like giving the school a license to step outside of the law.
    I agree with this entirely. There are many reasons the police cannot strip search adults whenever someone accuses another of possessing drugs. Those reasons apply as much to a teenager as they do to an adult, if not more. Another way must be found to reduce teen drug abuse.

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    The parents could probably seek the DA for assault charges against the VP and nurse.

    Hypothetically, what would the police do if a girl were forced to strip at a friends house whose parent decided that it was their responsibility to assure the adolscent did not have ibuprofin they had found in the posession of their own daughter.

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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

    Why are over the counter pain relievers against the law in public schools anyway.
    Between headaches and period cramps, I wouldn't be able to live without acetaminophen and ibuprofen. And I certainly wouldn't have been able to in 8th grade, when I suffered from even worse headaches and period cramps.
    Fortunately, my private school had no policy against these things, or at least none that I knew of; I carried them in my purse like any civilized human being, and like a civilized human being, sometimes offered them to friends who were in pain.

    Then again, I knew, from a young age, what pain relievers were for and what the appropriate dosage was. Even as a small child- starting at six or seven- I was allowed to climb up on the bathroom counter and help myself to the tylenol if I needed some. I knew to bite the pill in half and only take half.
    Why should anyone suffer needlessly from unrelieved pain in a school setting?
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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

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    Whether they found or did not find anything is, actually, irrelevant to the case. The question is whether or not the school was reasonable in it's procedure in assessing whether or not the girl had the ibuprofen. I support schools searching kids if they have reasonable suspicion that they have drugs or weapons. I'm not sure if the extent that this school went to was appropriate or if, procedurally, they were reasonable. I want to read more about the case before passing ultimate judgment.
    Strip searching by a school nurse and the Vice principal's assistant?

    No way. If it's that serious, call the police and have them search her. Are secreteries usually trained in the proper procedure of strip searching students? I'm sure they don't teach strip searching at nursing school.

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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

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    At least her college will be paid for now.
    Although not at any expense to the actual culprits, of course.
    At the expense of the school district, aka, the taxpaying citizens.
    At the cost of an even lesser education for all the other students.

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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

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    Although not at any expense to the actual culprits, of course.
    At the expense of the school district, aka, the taxpaying citizens.
    At the cost of an even lesser education for all the other students.
    They could also sue specific individuals.

    But you are right, everyone will pay for this.
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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Why are over the counter pain relievers against the law in public schools anyway.
    Between headaches and period cramps, I wouldn't be able to live without acetaminophen and ibuprofen. And I certainly wouldn't have been able to in 8th grade, when I suffered from even worse headaches and period cramps.
    Fortunately, my private school had no policy against these things, or at least none that I knew of; I carried them in my purse like any civilized human being, and like a civilized human being, sometimes offered them to friends who were in pain.

    Then again, I knew, from a young age, what pain relievers were for and what the appropriate dosage was. Even as a small child- starting at six or seven- I was allowed to climb up on the bathroom counter and help myself to the tylenol if I needed some. I knew to bite the pill in half and only take half.
    Why should anyone suffer needlessly from unrelieved pain in a school setting?
    Acording to the article the ibuprofen was prescription strength. Not the kind of stuff you can get over the counter.
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    Re: Court to hear case of teen strip-searched for ibuprofen

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    They could also sue specific individuals.

    But you are right, everyone will pay for this.
    I think in this case I wouldn't mind paying.
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