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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I wouldn't see it as a invasion to begin with. I'd see as humanitarian mission to stop a genocide that UK and NATO should help aid.

    I wouldn't support Iraq ever i was just making my point


    Ahh so there was no humanitarian effort in liberating millions of people in Iraq and afghanistan?
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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Ahh so there was no humanitarian effort in liberating millions of people in Iraq and afghanistan?
    Sure there was ...
    Amongst oil taking, destroying the countries infrastructure and ensuring Christian and minority Iraqis are persecuted due to the fact their support system was removed and hundreds of thousands displaced, plunging the country into a civil war ... Do i go on?

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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Sure there was ...
    Amongst oil taking, destroying the countries infrastructure and ensuring Christian and minority Iraqis are persecuted due to the fact their support system was removed and hundreds of thousands displaced, plunging the country into a civil war ... Do i go on?



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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    ... that is why it wouldn't work
    Then surely thats more to do with our attitude to the rest of the world then whether whether the country is muslim or not? We,ve hardly been shy about doing the same to non muslim countrys.

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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Then surely thats more to do with our attitude to the rest of the world then whether whether the country is muslim or not? We,ve hardly been shy about doing the same to non muslim countrys.
    Partly attitude but lets not remove part of that responsibility on Muslims themselves. Non Muslim countries don't react the same way Muslim countries do when it comes to attempts to forcing democracy, the western Gov. are generally stupid when it comes to Muslim/Islam and its reactions
    You could see by the guess that Iraq war would be over in weeks was ridiculous. If they even picked up a book on Iraq's history, they would have realised the quagmire they'd be dragged down into.

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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Laila, you're not making much sense and it is because your comments are incompatible with one another.

    If you're going to argue that the humanitarian crisis in Darfur warrants US involvement, then you must also argue that the humanitarian crisis in pre-war Iraq also warranted US involvement. You cannot be intellectually consistent otherwise.

    It appears that your resistance to intellectual consistency here is that you disagree with the war in Iraq. Such disagreement can be reasonable, but your disagreement with Iraq even as a humanitarian exercise undermines your argument for US involvement in Darfur.

    Seriously...what is this fetish with Darfur? Liberals and Democrats in the US incessantly argue that Darfur warrants immediate and even unilateral military action despite the fact that there are no US interests at stake there. Meanwhile, despite there being acual interests in Iraq and substantial interests regionally, after things got tough in Iraq, these same weasels started backtracking and arguing that the US unjustifiably went to Iraq unilaterally.

    I can only presume that the inconsistency is caused not by a legitimate or valid foreign relations philosophical argument but simply a hatred of Bush. I'm nearly convinced that had there been a Democrat in office that many of these people would have had no problem with the war in Iraq.

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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Right, if you insist.



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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    I am not sure what we could really accomplish in Darfur.

    I mean, without totally taking over the entire area and maintaining our presence for generations.

    Sucks, but what can we do?
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    Re: Sudan fears US military intervention over Darfur

    Quote Originally Posted by Shewter View Post
    I am not sure what we could really accomplish in Darfur.

    I mean, without totally taking over the entire area and maintaining our presence for generations.

    Sucks, but what can we do?
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