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Iran president: 'Not feasible' for Israel to live

Maybe you don't, either?
That's what happens when you don't have the ability to make an unequivocal moral judgement between right and wrong.
 
That's what happens when you don't have the ability to make an unequivocal moral judgement between right and wrong.

The end result of multiculturalism where judging is evil and you must have walked in someone else's shoes before condemning their behavior. :roll:

It's the nonsense that leads to equating Bush to Hitler, the US to Nazi Germany, and arguing that Gitmo's existence takes us down to the same level as the terrorists.

How people are so easily duped by this crap is appalling.
 
The end result of multiculturalism where judging is evil and you must have walked in someone else's shoes before condemning their behavior. :roll:

It's the nonsense that leads to equating Bush to Hitler, the US to Nazi Germany, and arguing that Gitmo's existence takes us down to the same level as the terrorists.

How people are so easily duped by this crap is appalling.
This is a producte of people finding virtue in being 'open minded' about all things.
 
What democratic features do you see in Iran?

Specifics, please.

BTW - democracy is not merely conducting elections.

Actually only elections. I didnt really mention anything else, did I? I never said Iran was a good country or anything like it, never excused it.. I am just saying that moron president was democratically elected, which he was.. It demonstrates a clear weakness with democracy.
The moron Bush was re-elected in the US, Silvio Berlusconi re-elected in Italy. The list goes on.. Democracy isnt as good as you people glorify it to be. And also i think his attitudes do not only reflect his own views, but also that of a large group of Iranian voters.
So the problems are more complex than people describe them.
 
Ah, so now I'm an American. Right.:doh

You shouldn't ASSume.

Anyways, back on topic; has anyone found a source for this quote in the AP article? I haven't been able to find anything, and would tend not to believe it, especially considering the fact that the only part that is quoted is "not feasible".

I suggest you RE-READ that line..
 
Dude, when you have a communist, Republicans, and an Ayn Rand libertarian all arguing against you you're probably wrong. Was the USSR a democracy? Is Cuba? Was Saddam's Iraq? All of those countries had elections, just like Iran.

Then they had democratic elections..

I laugh when the UK constantly nags on about how Medvedev was handpicked successor to Putin, allthewhile Brown is the prime minister in the UK, and was never elected.

Such things just makes me wonder how wrong 90% of people are and how far the reach of hypocrisy is.
 
Then they had democratic elections..

I laugh when the UK constantly nags on about how Medvedev was handpicked successor to Putin, allthewhile Brown is the prime minister in the UK, and was never elected.

Such things just makes me wonder how wrong 90% of people are and how far the reach of hypocrisy is.

So, the USSR, Cuba, and Saddam's Iraq we're all democracies?
 
So, the USSR, Cuba, and Saddam's Iraq we're all democracies?

Then they had democratic elections..

I laugh when the UK constantly nags on about how Medvedev was handpicked successor to Putin, allthewhile Brown is the prime minister in the UK, and was never elected.

Such things just makes me wonder how wrong 90% of people are and how far the reach of hypocrisy is.
 
Actually only elections. I didnt really mention anything else, did I? I never said Iran was a good country or anything like it, never excused it.. I am just saying that moron president was democratically elected, which he was.. It demonstrates a clear weakness with democracy.

Well, democracy ain't just about conducting elections. Democracy is far more than simply holding elections. It requires the establishment of democratic governing institutions.

Iranian elections ain't democratic, either since the ruling mullahs determine who appears on the ballot and who doesn't.

In short, casting a ballot doesn't transform a dictatorship into a democracy. That you argue so simply demonstrates that you're intellectually dishonest and that you seek only to defame democracy rather than discuss democracy in good faith.

The moron Bush was re-elected in the US, Silvio Berlusconi re-elected in Italy. The list goes on.. Democracy isnt as good as you people glorify it to be.

Oh? That's easy to say when you're someone who has lived under the protective umbrella of the democratic US and, hence, has had the time and capital to create cradle-to-grave social benefits for your own people.

Color me underwhelmed by your incessant anti-Americanism which only possible because of US interventionism and US taxpayer-subsidized defense.
 
Thats what "right of center" claims.. I am just saying if they did as he said, then they had democratic elections.
I don't think that's what he's claiming.
 
Well, democracy ain't just about conducting elections. Democracy is far more than simply holding elections. It requires the establishment of democratic governing institutions.

Iranian elections ain't democratic, either since the ruling mullahs determine who appears on the ballot and who doesn't.

In short, casting a ballot doesn't transform a dictatorship into a democracy. That you argue so simply demonstrates that you're intellectually dishonest and that you seek only to defame democracy rather than discuss democracy in good faith.

Iran is certainly a form of democracy, so is Italy and the US. In the US the parties decide who goes on the ballots, aside from the independents whom never get elected president.

The point here as Ive said a dusin times now is not democracy in itself or any of the related discussion we have had, but the fact that the Iranian president was democratically elected.

If you want to discuss the flaws of democracy which are many then I am up for that in another thread. But then we have to discuss everything about democracy.

Oh? That's easy to say when you're someone who has lived under the protective umbrella of the democratic US and, hence, has had the time and capital to create cradle-to-grave social benefits for your own people.

Color me underwhelmed by your incessant anti-Americanism which only possible because of US interventionism and US taxpayer-subsidized defense.

I havent lived under the protective umbrella of the democratic US.. I have lived under different protective umbrellas of different nations in Europe. I have only lived in the US for 6 months.. where do you get another idea from? Do you actually think I am American when my "location" is western Europe?

Your last phrases is just ridiculous.. check the facts before you speak, the last two lines actually undermines everything else you say as being unserious and not thought through as well.
 
I havent lived under the protective umbrella of the democratic US.. I have lived under different protective umbrellas of different nations in Europe. I have only lived in the US for 6 months.. where do you get another idea from? Do you actually think I am American when my "location" is western Europe?
The entire EU lives under the protective umbrella of the US.
 
The entire EU lives under the protective umbrella of the US.

In your dreams and fantasies.

I think you are just too much in love with the US to ever see the reality, and ever be reasoned with.. I am not anti-American, but you fit the opposite specter, you are blindly pro-American.
 
In your dreams and fantasies.
Nope. In the real world, the one that -you- live in. You can deny it if you want, but that only means you cannot accept things as they are.

Your life, such as it is, is possible only because of the security provded to you by the United States.
 
Nope. In the real world, the one that -you- live in. You can deny it if you want, but that only means you cannot accept things as they are.

Your life, such as it is, is possible only because of the security provded to you by the United States.

Not really. In reality its just your obsessed American dream turning into nationalism where you dream that everything good is because of Americans and everything bas is because of Russia/terrorists. Its sweet for a kid, but scary for an adult.

You do know that Europe has about equal military technology, more men in service and the second largest defense spending on the planet of €200 billion..
 
The entire EU lives under the protective umbrella of the US.

Why is this even relevant to the American mind in a discussion about "Iran president: 'Not feasible' for Israel to live".. Thats what I am wondering.. Is their need to play themselves out as the good man and spread the propaganda so constant that they always have to mention such ridiculous dreams everywhere?
 
MZ thinks that elections = democracy, so it's obviously not worth addressing his posts.

Can we get back on topic here? Can anyone find a full quote?
 
How are presidential candidates chosen?

Also, I'm still looking for a full quote about this. So far I have been able to come up with nothing, aside from the fact that this AP article was written by Sarah El Deeb, which isn't really promising.

Do you mean the candidates for the intra-party contests or the general election?
 
Yes there is.. The parties they approve candidates, and we all know without being member of the right party you can never become president or prime minister.

You are not getting the point. You DO NOT need the approval of the party leadership to run.
 
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