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Iran president: 'Not feasible' for Israel to live

Well, if we let them do that, do you think they might like us then?

Good question.

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Rhetorical Question
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Good question.

That's a lot of blog stuff. Everything I've found cites the same New Republic profile but none of them actually cite the sources. Same with the Israeli report of Biden claiming Israel was going to have to live with a nuclear Iran.

I'm interested in the source of the information and whether or not these claims can be substantiated. You got anything else?
 
That's a lot of blog stuff. Everything I've found cites the same New Republic profile but none of them actually cite the sources. Same with the Israeli report of Biden claiming Israel was going to have to live with a nuclear Iran.

I'm interested in the source of the information and whether or not these claims can be substantiated. You got anything else?


Just this:

At the Tuesday-morning meeting with committee staffers, Biden launches into a stream-of-consciousness monologue about what his committee should be doing, before he finally admits the obvious: "I'm groping here." Then he hits on an idea: America needs to show the Arab world that we're not bent on its destruction. "Seems to me this would be a good time to send, no strings attached, a check for $200 million to Iran," Biden declares. He surveys the table with raised eyebrows, a How do ya like that? look on his face.

The staffers sit in silence. Finally somebody ventures a response: "I think they'd send it back." Then another aide speaks up delicately: "The thing I would worry about is that it would almost look like a publicity stunt." Still another reminds Biden that an Iranian delegation is in Moscow that very day to discuss a $300 million arms deal with Vladimir Putin that the United States has strongly condemned. But Joe Biden is barely listening anymore. He's already moved on to something else.

Rhetorical Question
 
Really? Does the US have an unelected Supreme Leader who controls all government decisions?

The supreme leader only make sure that the foundation of the Islamic republic is followed, the president and the parliament controls the government decisions.

The US doesn't have anything similar which protects the constitution, no, or perhaps it does, the supreme courts?
 
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What are you talking about? Iran is not a democracy, it's a totalitarian, theological oligarchy. It is without a doubt the most repressive regime in the region. The elections are a pointless sham and not even remotely legitimate.

And what he said did not apply to the U.S.

Iran is a democracy. It has an elected parliament and an elected leader. To say anything else is just spinning..
 

Well it's unsubstantiated. There is no source other than something the author put in the article. That article is a very nasty piece of work. Not saying Biden didn't say that, but with no source at all...I'm not lending it any veracity.
 
Iran is a democracy. It has an elected parliament and an elected leader. To say anything else is just spinning..

No it's not spinning anything. Iran has been under a human rights microscope. The elections are a farce, it's been substantiated numerous times. Totalitarian, theocratic (works better than theological I think) oligarchy by the very definitions of the words.
 
Well it's unsubstantiated. There is no source other than something the author put in the article. That article is a very nasty piece of work. Not saying Biden didn't say that, but with no source at all...I'm not lending it any veracity.

That's called denial.
 
Iran is a democracy. It has an elected parliament and an elected leader. To say anything else is just spinning..

It has an elected leader who at anytime can be overuled(and is often) by the Ayatollahs.That is not spinning.
 
You're drastically overemphasizing the amount of influence he has in Iran. He makes key policy decisions, but does not directly run every aspect of the government. He's basically like our supreme court. He can interpret the constitution as he pleases to enforce law, policy, and social issues.

He can issue any decree he wants and can pick or remove any government official he wants. I'm hardly overemphasizing.
 
The supreme leader only make sure that the foundation of the Islamic republic is followed, the president and the parliament controls the government decisions.

The US doesn't have anything similar which protects the constitution, no, or perhaps it does, the supreme courts?

This one man literally chooses the leaders of Iran.

They are democratic in the same way the USSR, Cuba, and Saddam's Iraq were democratic.
 
That's called denial.

Yeah, okay. And you can't prove that it's true. Your contented to assume it's true because it fits your personal agenda.

Fair enough. But let's just lay it all out on the table. You subscribe to a very myopic world view that includes vilifying liberals and Muslims. So this article is right up your alley.

I'm sure you realize that when you post a list of links on a subject in a manner intended to lend to the veracity of your allegation, and of all those links some don't work and of those that do all reference the same unsubstantiated editorial piece, that doesn't make your allegation magically true, don't you?
 
It has an elected leader who at anytime can be overuled(and is often) by the Ayatollahs.That is not spinning.

Yes, just like the supreme court in the US can overrule the president if he clearly violates the constitution.
 
Yes, just like the supreme court in the US can overrule the president if he clearly violates the constitution.

The Supreme Court can't do it on a whim. Nor can they remove the President from power if he does something they disagree with. There's also more than one of them. They are also selected over time by a range of people and must be approved by the people's representatives. Completely different from the Supreme Leader.
 
This one man literally chooses the leaders of Iran.

They are democratic in the same way the USSR, Cuba, and Saddam's Iraq were democratic.

The comparison is completely unrealistic.

And no, he doesnt choose the leaders. Anyone can sign up to become a candidate, those candidates all go to primary rounds of elections, unless weeded out by the Guardian coucil..

Guardian Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then those people are voted amongst and two main candidates created if none have a majority already, which is unlikely.
Then there is a presidential vote.

All of these rounds, its the people whom decide.

We could go through endless technical discussion about the US and Iran and come to conclusions that both are and aren't democracies. But like it is now and for the ease of it and compared to each other and other democracies, both the US and Iran is a democracy.
 
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The comparison is completely unrealistic.

And no, he doesnt choose the leaders. Anyone can sign up to become a candidate, those candidates all go to primary rounds of elections, unless weeded out by the Guardian coucil, for reason that they arent qualified. Only a tiny fraction is weeded out.. The Guardian council is not the same as the ayatollah.

Guardian Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then those people are voted amongst and two main candidates created if none have a majority already, which is unlikely.
Then there is a presidential vote.

All of these rounds, its the people whom decide.

Funny that the Guardian Council is appointed or removed by the Supreme Leader isn't it? The only thing ridiculous here is your attempt to even try and compare Iran to an actual democracy.
 
Funny that the Guardian Council is appointed or removed by the Supreme Leader isn't it? The only thing ridiculous here is your attempt to even try and compare Iran to an actual democracy.

We could well go on about the technical issues about the US being a democracy as well, but the truth are, both compared to each other and compared to other democracies, the only conclusion is that both the US and Iran is a democracy.

All democracy have different shapes and different type of government models however.
 
We could well go on about the technical issues about the US being a democracy as well, but the truth are, both compared to each other and compared to other democracies, the only conclusion is that both the US and Iran is a democracy.

All democracy have different shapes and different type of government models however.

A comparison of democracy would be the US and France, or Germany and the UK, or Iceland and Spain. Iran doesn't even come close and to suggest otherwise is just dishonest.
 
A comparison of democracy would be the US and France, or Germany and the UK, or Iceland and Spain. Iran doesn't even come close and to suggest otherwise is just dishonest.

"Democracy is a form of government in which power is held by people under a free electoral system"

The government in Iran is elected BY THE PEOPLE... Both parliament and president..

The influence of parties, the constitutions and moral standings of Christianity in our electoral process is comparable to the influence of the Islamic parts of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
 
"Democracy is a form of government in which power is held by people under a free electoral system"

I think you missed that part. Iran has no where near a free electoral system.

There choices are between Supreme Leader Approved Candidate A and Supreme Leader Approved Candidate B.
 
I think you missed that part. Iran has no where near a free electoral system.

There choices are between Supreme Leader Approved Candidate A and Supreme Leader Approved Candidate B.

And your choices are between republican party abc and democrat party abc, which is then narrowed down to those parties "a's".
 
And your choices are between republican party abc and democrat party abc, which is then narrowed down to those parties "a's".

Do we have a Supreme Leader who picks them or do the people pick them?
 
And your choices are between republican party abc and democrat party abc, which is then narrowed down to those parties "a's".

Yes but it isnt the same is because they arent the only 2 choices.
 
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