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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Give me a break. All this is another attempt of fear mongering to find boogie men that "will harm us and rape our women". We have seen it when it comes to communists and Muslims, and now that the right has lost power in the US, they will use any and all methods to drive fear into the populace so they can take power again and "do something about it". And considering that latinos are the new "enemy" to many on the right due to the immigration issue, and most come through Mexico, then it is only natural that the right would use language and "opinions" like this to drive fear into the average American.. after all it has worked with Communists and Muslims.

    The chances of Mexico going into a civil war and collapse is as about the same chance that George W Bush goes to jail for the crap he did during his presidency.


    Considering that Im Hispanic descent, Im going to say that your full of bull****. The reason I even posted this story is because Mexico is our next door neighbor. Civil Wars tend to spill into other countries if they arent contained.
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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Considering that Im Hispanic descent, Im going to say that your full of bull****. The reason I even posted this story is because Mexico is our next door neighbor. Civil Wars tend to spill into other countries if they arent contained.
    And the report is not one the public usually takes note of. No offense to the El Paso newspaper but the story wasn't broken by a major paper or news organization, so you can't really expect the administration was trying to "fear monger."

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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Ten decapited bodies were found recently in Texas-all from Mexi-drug runners. Mexico is bleeding in to our borders states in every bad way known. Their scum is here because the money is greater. They are now responsible for the majority of weed and meth in the USA with no end in sight. Thanks Billy Bob Clinton and Georgie Boy Bush you are two real smart mother f***ers.
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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Give me a break. All this is another attempt of fear mongering to find boogie men that "will harm us and rape our women". We have seen it when it comes to communists and Muslims, and now that the right has lost power in the US, they will use any and all methods to drive fear into the populace so they can take power again and "do something about it". And considering that latinos are the new "enemy" to many on the right due to the immigration issue, and most come through Mexico, then it is only natural that the right would use language and "opinions" like this to drive fear into the average American.. after all it has worked with Communists and Muslims.

    The chances of Mexico going into a civil war and collapse is as about the same chance that George W Bush goes to jail for the crap he did during his presidency.
    Umm I don't know what you're talking about, but I have NEVER fear-mongered about Mexicans. In fact, I've often criticized those who do. I *welcome* immigration from Mexico.

    That has NOTHING to do with the reality that Mexico is in the midst of an extremely brutal turf war between the drug cartels, and both the US and Mexico would be better off if we jointly ended the war on drugs. Denial does not make problems go away.
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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    I'm very concerned about the Mexican governments ability to retain control over it's military and local police because of the influence of the drug cartels. The level of corruption is very deep. The cartels are actively recruiting soldiers in the areas they've been sent to patrol offering very generous pay rates.

    Add to that the fact that the cartels are actually engaging the Mexican army in what amounts to small unit combat and you can begin to see a very precarious situation on our wide open and unprotected border. I can very easily accept that Chavez would see this an opportunity to "assist the Mexican people in their struggle."

    If your goal was to undermine U.S. interventionism your best bet would be to force us to bring our troops home to deal with regional crises. Turning Mexico into a 1970/80's Guatemala would do just that. It's not as far from reality as we would like to think.
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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    The reason I even posted this story is because Mexico is our next door neighbor. Civil Wars tend to spill into other countries if they arent contained.
    That's true, but I have to ask yet again since you posted it, what does this have to do with Chavez\? You mentioned Chavez specifically is why I am asking. Was that just a slip and you meant the Mexico President?

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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    The real question is, if Mexico collapses would we take it? I mean, it's probably big enough that we can get 4 states out of it, that gives us a full column. But the water is terrible, so I don't know if we'd want to take it. I'd rather have Canada, at least then Alaska wouldn't be so lonely.
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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The real question is, if Mexico collapses would we take it? I mean, it's probably big enough that we can get 4 states out of it, that gives us a full column. But the water is terrible, so I don't know if we'd want to take it. I'd rather have Canada, at least then Alaska wouldn't be so lonely.
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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Considering that Im Hispanic descent, Im going to say that your full of bull****. The reason I even posted this story is because Mexico is our next door neighbor. Civil Wars tend to spill into other countries if they arent contained.
    Am I? I see... so there is no ill feeling towards the Hispanic community or Mexicans in the US by certain people on the political right..

    But other than that, yes Civil Wars do tend to spill over borders, but Mexico is no where near a civil war. It is a criminal war, not unlike the mafia wars of various US cities, or the gang warfare in other US cities.. is the US also on the brink of civil war then? Is the on going mafia war in Naples, a prelude to the collapse of Italy and the EU and a massive European civil war?

    So yes it is fear mongering by the right xenophobic minority that seem to have very large lungs, when we hear things like "Mexico possibly near civil war" or similar, and especially considering how the same people seem to want to have "enemies" and "issues" under every rock.. may it be so called liberals, commies, Muslims or illegal immigrants.
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    Re: U.S. military report warns 'sudden collapse' of Mexico is possible

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Umm I don't know what you're talking about, but I have NEVER fear-mongered about Mexicans. In fact, I've often criticized those who do. I *welcome* immigration from Mexico.
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