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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Isn't the entire purpose of the military to force people to do things they don't want to do? Are straight men in this country seriously more frightened of gay men then rockets?
    I don't know. I don't think so. The military is pretty homoerotic, especially the less females you have around. Its basically dudes ****ing around with each other all the time, without actually ****ing. If an openly gay person is "introduced" into that equation, I don't think there is too much problem. I think I told you all about this one Marine in my unit who was pretty obvious that he was gay. Nobody ever really clowned around with him like we did each other, but nobody beat his ass for it either.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Isn't the entire purpose of the military to force people to do things they don't want to do?
    The people that sign up for the dangerous jobs do want to do that stuff.

    Are straight men in this country seriously more frightened of gay men then rockets?
    Some probably are.

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    It also probably has a lot to do with the fact that they dislike things that are different.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Also all that "what about the camaraderie" stuff is bull****, because the army was successfully racially integrated.

    Unless you want to argue that contemporary straight men hate gays more then white men hated blacks in the 50s...
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Oddly enough, one of the google ads on this thread is for "gay military dating."
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Well there goes all the underlying hotness that came along with being gay in the military. Dammit.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Also all that "what about the camaraderie" stuff is bull****, because the army was successfully racially integrated.

    Unless you want to argue that contemporary straight men hate gays more then white men hated blacks in the 50s...
    You don't think blacks were treated harshly for most of the time after the services were integrated? It has changed, but it did take a long time before they were treated equally in the military.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    And how has the rampant sex effected our military's ability to do it's job?
    Hmm....

    Let's see, the gals that get knocked up underway, the 3rd class having sex with my Lt. in the balloon room, he eventually divorced his wife for her when she got out.

    There are many ways.

    The problem with the females.. you have 10 people in a "shop" on board, 3 of them are female, 2 get pregnant before a cruise, now you are down 20% man power, happens all the damned time.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Hmm....

    Let's see, the gals that get knocked up underway, the 3rd class having sex with my Lt. in the balloon room, he eventually divorced his wife for her when she got out.

    There are many ways.

    The problem with the females.. you have 10 people in a "shop" on board, 3 of them are female, 2 get pregnant before a cruise, now you are down 20% man power, happens all the damned time.
    That wouldn't be a problem for gays, would it?
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Actually I think it is great. When I was in the Navy in the early 70's the two big scams for getting out were conscientious objection and claiming to be Homosexual.

    Whether truth or urban legend I do not know but a popular story was one sailor requested to see his commanding officer. The request was granted and he told his CO that he was gay. The CO then unzipped his fly and told the sailor to prove it.

    If the gays truly want to serve then there should be no obstacles placed in their path. Current sexual harrasment laws provide plenty of protection against unwanted advances in the work place so any fear of a homosexual making unwanted advances or making some kind of spectacle etc out of the work enviroment would be ended quickly.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    That wouldn't be a problem for gays, would it?
    This is an emotional issue, not a military issue, and that's the problem with it.

    And if you don't think that there won't be problems, you're an idiot. It's not that they cannot server, and serve honorably, it happens, it's not that there will be a huge problems, there will be some, but not a lot...

    It's just that this is COMPLETELY an emotional issue, and has very little to do with military readiness, and in fact will hurt reediness to an extent for a while. Why do that?

    To feel good?

    Stupid.

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