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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Not that it should matter, but I believe he has. Or so he's said anyway.

    Well, he can stick his politically correct identity-group phony grievance anyhow.

    There must be something really wrong with our society to need all these little identity-groups there to use the government to create the type of society they want.

    Any Libertarian who disagrees with that, isn't a Libertarian.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    FTR I'm thankful to everyone who has ever served in the US military.


    Don't shoot me because I believe that people are individualistic by nature and do not need their opinions made for them according to their group-status.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Hey Nextera, have you ever served in the military? If not, do us all a favor and stick your politically correct identity-group phony grievance
    Yes, I am retired Army, TYVM. Any more questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    This is a dumb road to go down. Is this a military only forum? If so, I'll leave.

    It doesn't matter what they think anyhow, I'm, entitled to my opinion.
    Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but if you do not understand the working of the military or the actions of someone in the military your opinion, is well........just that, an opinion, and not based on experience.

    I was in the military and was in a unit where I served with a homosexual and frankly, was someone I could rely on in combat if need be.

    So your homophobic nonsense is well just that, nonsense.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    FTR I'm thankful to everyone who has ever served in the US military.


    Don't shoot me because I believe that people are individualistic by nature and do not need their opinions made for them according to their group-status.
    I'm not sure I agree with that, man is a social creature and the intermediate, small-scale associations that long made up his everyday life such as family, work/gild, church and local community are very important to the formation of individual personality, meaning and freedom and to the creation of social order. It is the decline of these, the decline of community, that has caused many of the problems of modern society.

    To quote Robert Nisbet.

    Conservatives, from Burke on, have tended to see the population much in the manner medieval legists and philosophical realists (in contrast to nominalists) saw it: as composed of, not individuals directly, but the natural groups within which individuals invariably live: family, locality, church, region, social class, nation, and so on. Individuals exist, of course, but they cannot be seen or comprehended save in terms of social identities which are inseparable from groups and associations.

    Of course this is different to the PC idiocy that has arisen since the 60s where rights for every "disadvantaged" and yet often non-meaningfully socially connected minority have occupied the minds of so many authoritarian or PC liberals. But one should not throw the baby out with the bath water, atomistic individualism is not a good thing.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    What in your opinion would ending the "don't ask don't tell" policy be then?
    Allowing them to inform others of their preference.

    People in the military will now be free to be openly gay. It's an experiment. Because it is an experiment, the military may or may not be destroyed or strengthened by it.
    I'll accept that.

    Homosexuality among men is generally a very dangerous lifestyle.

    My non-membership to their identity-group doesn't change reality.
    Homosexuality among men is no more dangerous than heterosexuality. Women have the same orifices and more.



    Yeah & that's fine if they keep it to themselves. If it aint broke...
    So you are only opposed to them letting people know they're gay?



    Ending DADT would be a step toward normalizing a lifestyle choice that is dangerous health-wise. for men.
    Dangerous how? Once again it is no more dangerous than a heterosexual lifestyle.



    Take your thing, put an ice-cube on it for an hour & use a very sharp pair of pruning shears.

    Really insults is all you have at the end.

    Insults and ridicule.
    You brought an irrelevant post to the table talking about STDs among gay men. We aren't talking about homosexuality and what it brings, we are talking about a policy that asks people NOT to state their sexual preference. You took it upon yourself to take it beyond the debate, the ridicule and insults should be expected, seeing how you arent taking this debate seriously either.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by The silenced majority View Post
    Well, he can stick his politically correct identity-group phony grievance anyhow.

    There must be something really wrong with our society to need all these little identity-groups there to use the government to create the type of society they want.

    Any Libertarian who disagrees with that, isn't a Libertarian.
    And what does this have to do with not allowing gays to serve openly in the military?
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    The funny thing is that, if the US "bans" openly gay military personnel because of possible "sexual" advances and such things, then they should really also ban females (or males) from the military, since there is sexual tension there too!...

    How about cutting off the balls of all soldiers like we do with dogs, so they wont think that much about sex, since it seems to be such a big problem?
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Some of you are talking about homosexuals as if they are a different species. My god, folks, they are simply people like all of us. I've known dozens of homosexuals... some I liked immensely, some I disliked immensely, not because of their sexual preference but because of who they were as individuals.

    To prevent homosexuals from serving in the military is simply legalized bigotry and blatant discrimination. There's no other definition of it. How can a nation evolve while a segment of society is being ostracized and discriminated against? The simple answer is that it can't.

    This is all so damned simple. I honestly can't comprehend why so many are terrified to accept all individuals for what they are, rather than debase them because of their sexual orientation... or their gender or race, for that matter. There's no difference to me. There should be no difference under the law.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    How can a nation evolve while a segment of society is being ostracized and discriminated against? The simple answer is that it can't.
    You mean like muggers and murderers are?

    I think you need to choose your words better. Discrimination is not necessarily a bad thing.

    I don't mean to imply anything about homosexuals here, just the loose reasoning.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You mean like muggers and murderers are?

    I think you need to choose your words better. Discrimination is not necessarily a bad thing.

    I don't mean to imply anything about homosexuals here, just the loose reasoning.
    Of course you meant to imply something about homosexuals. You just equated them with muggers and murderers, as if sexual preference that doesn't fit your personal mold is some kind of violent crime.

    I think YOU need to choose your words better. *disgusted*

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