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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    The only possible reason I see that would advocate DADT is if the advocating of homosexuality would cause a rift in military morale and effect our fighting forces thus effecting our national security.

    Twenty years ago, maybe. What with all the homophobic bravado conditioned into our fighting forces. But today, not so. Our youth making up the majority of the armed forces have different, more tolerant, attitudes these days. I don't think doing away with DADT will bother them that much.

    These days, practicaly everybody knows a gay person they respect and like. It's not like it used to be. Our youth today are MUCH smarter than the youth in previous generations and far more tolerable.

    Who would you rather have working with you? A gay person or a red-neck homophobe? And there you have it.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    But you said that you already knew of gays in the military, it wasn't a secret, and it wasn't a big deal. Surely your situation was not unusual.

    So nothing would change other than the official policy.



    you are broadening my limited experience and applying it to group of a million people....


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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    What is the source of that statistic? I'd like to see the methodology they used to determine what constitutes a "casualty." Those numbers all seem awfully high.
    A casualty is generally considered any injury or condition that prevents one from doing military activities.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Well, then they are living in denial. I'm sure a person who is black could somehow be brainwashed to believe that they are actually white too. What's your point?
    You have got to be kidding.

    My point is picking who you sleep with is not a race or remotely the same thing.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    If you've ever taken a gym class, played sports, or joined the military, you have showered with a gay man.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You have got to be kidding.

    My point is picking who you sleep with is not a race or remotely the same thing.
    So a person should just be expected to sleep with someone even if they aren't attracted to people of that sex. Okay, let's try that. So let's pretend that the situation is reversed and now you have to choose to sleep with guys even though you are attracted to girls. Easy stuff, eh? It is just a choice after all!

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you're in the military, you are trained to kill and face the possibility of being killed yourself. And you're worried about some guy staring at your junk in the shower?

    Sorry, that isn't a good enough reason to keep gays out of the military.
    Cracks me up, you have no idea do you? We are not trained to "kill" and we are not trained to face the possibility of being killed. We are trained to follow orders without question.

    This has nothing to do with being distracted by an openly gay man in close proximity living conditions.

    PS who said anything about keeping gay people out of the military? This is about "ask don't tell."
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    So a person should just be expected to sleep with someone even if they aren't attracted to people of that sex.


    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Okay, let's try that. So let's pretend that the situation is reversed and now you have to choose to sleep with guys even though you are attracted to girls. Easy stuff, eh? It is just a choice after all!
    I am not even going to dignify this stupidity with a response.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post




    I am not even going to dignify this stupidity with a response.
    So, in other words, you can't think of anything to back up your position? Gotcha.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    you are broadening my limited experience and applying it to group of a million people....


    See the error in that?
    Surely you don't think your experience was uncommon? Do you think that it's rare for people in the military to know that people with whom they serve are gay? Do you think that it's unusual for them to not care, just as you didn't care?
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