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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

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    Blacks are allowed to serve in the military openly.
    How would you put them "in the closet"?
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    If irrational fears make a soldier lose focus, he has no business being a soldier.

    Fact, we are all humans, with our courage, fears, irrationalities, socially programmed prejudices and what not. To suggest making sweeping social change in an insitutions....

    Fact is those who do choose to serve may have just as strong feelings on this as those who choose not to serve.


    Furthermore, are you saying we should go through the military and purge anyone who does not approve of homosexuality?


    kinda short sighted idealism you got there....






    How many male on male rapes happen between adult males outside of prisons? How many of these are actual acts of homosexuality (It's a crime about power)?



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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Ideally yes, but unfortunantley the stigma that we are all wiped clean in boot camp and are nice little programmed robots for the government simply isn't true. The military is made up of individuals who still carry their personal issues and fears with them through their service career. Some may carry their prejudices in as well, although I believe the tougher the service, the less discrimination you will have. Special Forces, you won't ever see or hear it because they know the value of each mans contribution moreso than a regular.



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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    exactly the opposite. they can, the 1% though that cant may have a detrimental affect on the 99% who dont care.
    That's fine. The 1% who can't adapt can be dishonorably discharged for dereliction of duty. Or they can just not renew their contracts when they're up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und
    I bet I know more gays that served in the military than you, honorably..... just sayin... I am also saying that if you change a policy like this in the middle of a war you are gonna get someone killed. not one life is worth a social experiment/change for ones political agenda.
    Really. I'm trying to envision any possible circumstance in which allowing gays in the military would get someone killed: Adam, Bob, and Charlie are in a Humvee in Afghanistan when all of a sudden, a band of Taliban sympathizers waving guns start charging at them screaming "DERKADERKA MOHAMMED JIHAD!!!!" Adam orders Bob and Charlie to shoot the militants...but they're both distracted because Bob is fellating Charlie in the back of the Humvee, and all three are killed.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Okay, but people usually don't get killed during that stupid **** do they?




    You do know there were more military deaths under Clinton than have under Bush right?


    Not to point out anything bad Clinton did, just that yes, troops sometimes die doing stupid ****......
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    It's about time. That policy is pointless. Like any struggle, it'll probably be tough for a while, but then it'll die down and be alright.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You wanna know what really gets people killed?

    1) Not having enough troops. Considering how overstretched our military already is, you'd think that the 12,500 gay soldiers kicked out of the military since DADT started might have been useful. Guess you don't think so.



    Do you have a link showing the breakdown of this "12,500" number, could you also show me unit reporting of being understaffed in iraq or afghanistan due to a gay person being kicked out?

    Thank you.


    Note ultimatley I agree that DADT is a stupid policy. I have no issues with honorable people serving honorably. I just do not think it is wise to monkey with things at this stage of two wars.




    2) Not being able to understand the enemy.
    We have a massive shortage of Arabic translators, which gets troops killed every day. It's a shame we kicked 80 of them out for being gay since 2003 alone, because otherwise some red-blooded straight American soldiers might not have been killed because of inadequate intelligence. But I guess you think that's far less important than whether or not the troops have to deal with QUEERS in their midst.

    I thought that was a travesty actually. And I also think that the commander or whoever was in charge handled this wrong.

    That said


    If I were the gay translators, I would have put my country over my gayness, whether this is right or wrong until I served my time, I knew the rules going in. I made the choice. I need to live by my voluntary contract with the USG.

    Period.



    Anyone else find it odd that there were 80 gay translaters in such a small specialty?
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Fact, we are all humans, with our courage, fears, irrationalities, socially programmed prejudices and what not. To suggest making sweeping social change in an insitutions....
    What is this "sweeping social change"?

    Homosexuals already serve. They are watching their straight brother's backs and vice versa. It sounds like a trumped up charge of "sweeping social change" if they were open about an irrelevant fact. Yes, the fact is irrelevant because they are serving already without a problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Fact is those who do choose to serve may have just as strong feelings on this as those who choose not to serve.
    People have strong feelings about lots of things. Somehow, they don't realize that they are already serving with homosexuals. This is all about enabling their denial of this fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Furthermore, are you saying we should go through the military and purge anyone who does not approve of homosexuality?
    Are you saying that all the soldiers who disapprove of homosexuality would shoot their brothers in the back or not watch their back?

    We both know this isn't the case though. You don't have to approve of a lifestyle of your brother to defend his life. Catholics serve with Protestants who serve with Muslims who serve with Jews who serve with Wiccans who serve with Atheists who serve with agnostics etc.

    I have a feeling that our Military personal have issues with Muslims currently. Yet somehow, they manage to serve right next to them.

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    kinda short sighted idealism you got there....
    Nice boogieman you've brought to the table.

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    What does this have to do with anything?
    It's the only reason I can think of that people would fear homosexuals. (Not that it's realistic, which was the point of my question)
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I bet I know more gays that served in the military than you, honorably..... just sayin...
    How did you know they were gay?

    How did they survive what with all of the people looking to shoot them in the back?

    What is your beef with DADT if you already know who all the gay soldiers are?

    I know, you can tell. They don't write letters to girlfriends and wives right?

    They don't have pictures of love interests around.

    Let's just ignore the 800 lb. gorilla in the room.
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