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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Blacks already serve in the military.
    So do homosexuals.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    So do homosexuals.
    Blacks are allowed to serve in the military openly.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Blacks are allowed to serve in the military openly.
    As opposed to being in the "white closet"?

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    As opposed to being in the "white closet"?
    As opposed to not serving openly.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Can't wait to see how the sub service handles this.
    I'm looking to volunteer for sub and I was thinking the exact same thing.

    But in general, yes, I have no problem with the policy being ended. It won' be for a while, though.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    As opposed to not serving openly.
    So prior to integration, the blacks in the military couldn't be open to the fact they were black? They had to keep it to themselves or risk getting kicked out?

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    So prior to integration, the blacks in the military couldn't be open to the fact they were black? They had to keep it to themselves or risk getting kicked out?
    If you're actually asking, they were kept in segregated units which were generally considered inferior to other units.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    You miss the point. And are side tracking into silliness now.

    You work Lt. Joe, you're Chief is gay, you're E-5 is gay. The E-5 get's great evals, they seem to be friendly. Nothing out of bounds, just... friendly.

    Reality is nothing is going between them, but what do you think folks will think?

    Two E-5's fall in love, that's not a problem? We have enough of that crap going on with straight folk.

    And if you don't think gay sex won't become a problem on post/base/ship if this happens you're nuts.
    Hmm. I see one assumption here that I don't think would necessarily apply in real life. You assume that DADT would keep people from knowing who's gay and who's not, which I doubt is always the case at the "un-official" level. The existance/nonexistance of DADT doesn't really impact your scenario at all, but it's a completely detached issue. And I thought US also had rules against fraternization. If you can trust female/male relations in general to be kept at a professional level, I don't understand why you think this would be any different.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    So prior to integration, the blacks in the military couldn't be open to the fact they were black? They had to keep it to themselves or risk getting kicked out?
    Indeed although it was probably very hard to hide in most cases so I doubt most would have tried.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    Care to back up your use of percentages because I am sure that the disparity is far greater.
    Your use of fonts makes me want to say...... no......



    What makes you think the Army was successfully integrated?
    I left the Army in 92 and to say it was successfully integrated meant you had to twist the meaning of "successfully".
    Regardless of real or perceived favoritism or racial hatred, were blacks and those of other races able to work together... yep.
    But off duty was a different story and most who serve/d know this.


    Hmm, anyone else find this true? I didn't.
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